Guest Anonymous Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 I called around and got a price to do an engine swap for the 92 GP... tthey said $910= 13 hours of labor @70 for the car, provided i have an engine and it is a direct swap (like another 3.4 going in.) Does that seem steep? good deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitcor Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 I called around and got a price to do an engine swap for the 92 GP... tthey said $910= 13 hours of labor @70 for the car, provided i have an engine and it is a direct swap (like another 3.4 going in.) Does that seem steep? good deal? That sounds about right, why not DIY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 i know my mechanic has quoted me around $300 - $400 for labor on the same job. i'd swap it myself personally, i mean its not your main car so why not give it a shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 I would, but i dont have a lift or a garage, and i am absolutely engine-illiterate. I'd suppose that if i got a manual i could pull it off if i had a place to do it, im just afraid of screwing it up. he said that 910 was just to swap the block. he told me i would also have to do the alternator and such as well and it would be about $1200. Is this true? I actually wouldnt mind changing it since its old, but is this guy schemeing me? there is a good mechanic in town that would probably do the work for much less, but he has been after the car for years like me and tryed buying it out from under me... i dont trust him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 so, learn. get over the worry of messing things up. but since you don't got a garage it don't matter. 900 just to swap the block? around here when you say engine swap that means the whole thing wow $900 for just the block then you gotta put the heads on? and he dosen't like to mess with accessories? wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme_style21 Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Do it yourself. Thats how I learn. I always figure - hey its already broken... can't do much more harm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Do it yourself. Thats how I learn. I always figure - hey its already broken... can't do much more harm! that line of thinking has gotten me soo far when it comes to cars "well, it ain't getting any more busted" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Dude, just do it yourself. If you're not comfortable working on an engine DITCH THE FUCKING 3.4. Go buy a 3.1, swap the piece of shit in there and deal. If engines elude you the way you're portraying, the 3.4 is not the one for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 I'd rather have the 3.4, and I would like to learn the 3.4. I figure that I am going to keep the car for many, many years even if I upgrade to something new-er. Like a garage car, you know? And I will have alot of trouble finding someone to service it and will pay out of the ass to have it serviced, so I'd like to be able to take care of its mechancal components myself. Like I've said, the car is very special to me (not becuase its an RPE) and I dont want to ahve to junk it becuase I cant afford to fix it. So, I am in a jam... I should host an engine swap party at my house :!: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1kicker Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 Might want to consider the 3400 swap. There's a member on 60deg that did it (Lorenzo). That is a lower maintenence engine and is about as powerful. Plus it's newer so it will run for a long time and they are cheap and plentiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 would a 3400 be a direct swap? is it OBD 1 like my 92? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 would a 3400 be a direct swap? is it OBD 1 like my 92? OBD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 Anything 96+ = OBD II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 I'd need to change some stuff then, up goes the price, I think my best bet would be to get a rebuilt 3.4 that will be cheap and reliable. *if* i swap the engine, what else whould i have replaced in there thats not going to jack the price way up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
god910 Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 Dude, $900 will buy a LOT of engine tools, stands, hoists, beer. All the essentials needed to Get R Done!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokemBokem Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 DO IT YOURSELF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henschman Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 my mechanic pulled the 3.1 out of my wrecked lumina, pulled the seized engine out of one i bought, and installed the good one for $300, but it would probably be more expensive with any1 else(the mechanic is a friend). If it had been any more, i would have done it myself. I have a friend that didn't know a thing about cars (high school kid) but he educated himself, and pulled off a swap in his crx in his little garage all by himself. If nothing else, it'd be a learning experience to do it yourself, but i understand if you wouldn't want to. I just might look for a cheaper place. And if you're going to do a swap, you might think of how much benefit you will get from what engine. If you're going to invest that much time/money, you want to do it with an engine thats worth swapping! If you want a direct bolt in, go for the 3800 ser. II sc. With a few boltons, they make around 300 hp. It would take a lot of modding to get a 3400 to that point. But whatever does it 4 u! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 If you want a direct bolt in, go for the 3800 ser. II sc. With a few boltons, they make around 300 hp. I don't think a 3800 SII L67 is a direct bolt-in for a 1st gen GP. It takes a bit of fabrication... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 If you want a direct bolt in, go for the 3800 ser. II sc. With a few boltons, they make around 300 hp. I don't think a 3800 SII L67 is a direct bolt-in for a 1st gen GP. It takes a bit of fabrication... bolts right in, the wiring is the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 If you want a direct bolt in, go for the 3800 ser. II sc. With a few boltons, they make around 300 hp. I don't think a 3800 SII L67 is a direct bolt-in for a 1st gen GP. It takes a bit of fabrication... bolts right in, the wiring is the problem I was under the impression that you have to fabricate a motor mount. Maybe I'll reexamine my sources (and my plans for future engine swap :D ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 why not go with a real motor, the 3.4 for example, 24 valves, no pushrods to get in the way and ISNT A BOAT ANCHOR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 why not go with a real motor, the 3.4 for example, 24 valves, no pushrods to get in the way and ISNT A BOAT ANCHOR because he isn't looking foreword to the future maintence issues 3.4's have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomshado Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 part of the cost of bragging about a 3.4 is the joy of fixing it. if you can track down a working, good shape 3.4 clean it up, change all the fluids do the 13* timing change and bolt on a new alt. bolting everything together is easy. it really is. I had my engine out a couple months ago, and it wasn't bad, time consumin, but no tools were thrown. since a 3.4 swap to a 3.4 is identical, its not hard at all. the biggest things to watch out for are the possible leaks if you break the ac lines, the tranny cooler lines, and all the wiring. its a job for people who can follow directions, and really if this thing is your baby, trust only yourself to touch the car. c'mon, diy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgrntld187 Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Yeah man DIY. I'm taking Auto Mechanics at the Ed-Tech this year, and after I learn enough everything will be DIY for me (for the most part). The only way to learn is trial and error, so just do it and learn from your mistakes. Shit if your worried about it, swap an engine into a friends car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudefyet Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 If you want a direct bolt in, go for the 3800 ser. II sc. With a few boltons, they make around 300 hp. I don't think a 3800 SII L67 is a direct bolt-in for a 1st gen GP. It takes a bit of fabrication... bolts right in, the wiring is the problem I was under the impression that you have to fabricate a motor mount. Maybe I'll reexamine my sources (and my plans for future engine swap :D ) all you need is the engine, tranny, and axels...and a lot of skill with wiring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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