SantaCruzTGP Posted April 20, 2004 Report Posted April 20, 2004 My mufflers are shot! I hear that cutting them out entirely makes a great difference in sound quality, but what about drivability? How about Flowmasters or any other brand? Has anybody replaced their mufflers? How do they stack up? I'm going to keep the cat on. Quote
dbtk2 Posted April 20, 2004 Report Posted April 20, 2004 I put Magnaflow mufflers on my STE and they sound great. They are straight through mufflers so they flow well, but they are suprisingly quiet. My stock mufflers had holes in them, so I can't really compare them to that, but they were definately quieter. I like them a lot personally. And they definately aren't going to hurt your performance any. Shawn Quote
R Dubya Posted April 20, 2004 Report Posted April 20, 2004 Shawn- Do you have any sound clips of those mufflers? I'd like to hear them and see what they do for me. Thanks. Quote
93CutlassSupreme Posted April 20, 2004 Report Posted April 20, 2004 straight through mufflers are higher in pitch than flowmasters Quote
LukeZ34 Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 http://lukez34.com/galleries/audio/tgpfinal.mp3 TGP w/magnaflows and gutted cat. Quote
93CutlassSupreme Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 i wonder what flows sound like on a turbo motor Quote
R Dubya Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 TGP w/magnaflows and gutted cat. That sounds really nice. Did you put them on or did Kenny? Those really give it a low rumble.. Quote
god910 Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 i wonder what flows sound like on a turbo motor I'll be putting some 40 series on soon, w/ no cat. So we shall see. Quote
93CutlassSupreme Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 i wonder what flows sound like on a turbo motor I'll be putting some 40 series on soon, w/ no cat. So we shall see. i've got the 40 series, just no turbo Quote
93CutlassSupreme Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 TGP w/magnaflows and gutted cat. That sounds really nice. Did you put them on or did Kenny? Those really give it a low rumble.. interesting...every straight-through muffler i have heard sounded RICER Quote
LukeZ34 Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 Kenny put them on. I'm actually thinking of removing them and going to straight pipe instead. We'll see though. Quote
dbtk2 Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 TGP w/magnaflows and gutted cat. That sounds really nice. Did you put them on or did Kenny? Those really give it a low rumble.. interesting...every straight-through muffler i have heard sounded RICER Did you listen to that sound clip. I listened to it when I was deciding on mufflers, and thats what I ended up with. I agree that most straight-through mufflers sound ricey, but not these. I like it alot. My car sounds very good at idle (but still quiet) and when you rev it up it doesn't sound like a 4 banger. Although I am going to be doing some exhaust work in the near future, so they MAY be going away...not sure though...may be able to keep them with the new exhaust. Shawn Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 I gotta recommend glasspacks. Cheap and I think they sound good w/ no cat. Ask gp90se what it sounded like. He rode in it...all the way to 6k. Quote
TGPilot Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 Kenny put them on. I'm actually thinking of removing them and going to straight pipe instead. We'll see though. Why remove them? The Magnaflows that are on the car now have a life-time warranty and they are a straight through design. There is a slight bend in them when the inlet is on the side and the outlet is centered. There is no reduction in size inside the muffler and the flow is not slowed by the internal sound packing... 8) *edit* When they pulled those mufflers out of the box I looked in them and could clearly see through them minus the slight bend from inlet to outlet... 8) Quote
R Dubya Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 I like them a lot, they don't sound at all ricer to me. I'm considering a set when I can come up with some more funding. Quote
LukeZ34 Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 Yea, I know their a straight through design, that's not what I'm concerned about.. I'm just wanting to toy around with a different sound. I have no way of doing the work myself, so I'd have to have a shop do it, and since that involves money, I doubt it will happen. Quote
gp90se Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 No mufflers Owns Joo http://members.aol.com/p73dart/images/DanTurboClips/DanTurboGP1.wav http://members.aol.com/p73dart/images/DanTurboClips/DanTurboGP2.wav http://members.aol.com/p73dart/images/DanTurboClips/DanTurboGP3.wav -Jeff Quote
LukeZ34 Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 I can't even hear the exhaust in those clips.. :? Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 I can't even hear the exhaust in those clips.. :? :withstupid: Quote
EurosportZ34 Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 yea, me neither...too much engine noise. Quote
RareGMFan Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 Ok, I'm going to be needing exhaust work, too. No mufflers and no cat is out of the question. So what sounds the best while not sacrificing performance as far as mufflers and cats go? I'd prefer them to be pretty damn loud. I like the rummble the AWD has with the Cherry Bomb Vortex muffler, but I'd like it to be even louder in the 3K + RPM range. I'm also most likely going 3" all the way through. Unless that's too much? :shock: Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted April 21, 2004 Report Posted April 21, 2004 If you're mostly stock 3" is probably overkill. It won't hurt but it's not gonna help anymore than 2.5". I'm gonna try for full 3" but I also plan on doing upgrades as I go. Quote
RareGMFan Posted April 22, 2004 Report Posted April 22, 2004 I'm gonna try for full 3" but I also plan on doing upgrades as I go. Same here. I've already got the Jeff M TG 160 chip & K&N, and am planning on an FFP underdrive pulley, possibly even a FM Intercooler. We'll see how crazy I get. After everything is up and running properly on both the cars, it would be great to get more serious about a bigger turbo upgrade. I'm suprised more people (especially those capable of welding/fabricating flanges and such) haven't dived deeper into this subject. Imagine the possibilities if we can get a decent sized turbo on these cars. :shock: Quote
93CutlassSupreme Posted April 22, 2004 Report Posted April 22, 2004 TGP w/magnaflows and gutted cat. That sounds really nice. Did you put them on or did Kenny? Those really give it a low rumble.. interesting...every straight-through muffler i have heard sounded RICER Did you listen to that sound clip. I listened to it when I was deciding on mufflers, and thats what I ended up with. I agree that most straight-through mufflers sound ricey, but not these. I like it alot. My car sounds very good at idle (but still quiet) and when you rev it up it doesn't sound like a 4 banger. Although I am going to be doing some exhaust work in the near future, so they MAY be going away...not sure though...may be able to keep them with the new exhaust. Shawn yes i did listen, i was surprised at the sound, literally every other car with straight through mufflers has sounded ricer as hell it almost rumbles as much as my flows, that exhaust sounds more like a race motor while my flows sound more like a muscle car motor Quote
god910 Posted April 22, 2004 Report Posted April 22, 2004 Luke, what did you use to record that MP3 of your exhaust (mic, software, etc..)? That's a pretty good sounding clip. Quote
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