slick Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 Would there be a noticable difference if I did an 1997 up brake swap on my car? Or do they suck even worse? Quote
supreme_style21 Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 I wasn't impressed with 'em Quote
OldsmoBeast Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 my 97 has WAYYY better brakes than the 91....but they're completely different cars too...LOL Quote
RedZMonte Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 the 1995+ front brakes are bigger and will bolt up. you will need the new knuckle assymboly. the 1994+ rear brakes will also swap over. bigger brakes will allways help. more surface area to dissapte the heat. cooler brakes will stop better allways. ebc makes dimpled and slotted rotors and power slot makes slotted rotors. both keep the brakes cooler and will help you stop better. any 1st gen w-body brake system will be an easy swap. the 1997+ GP brakes will not swap over. wrong offset on the rotor. shane Quote
kfahn Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 by the way, the 97+ brakes are unbelievable compared to my brakes, and any other w-body (pre-97) that i have ridden in. Our brakes are underpowered, the 97+ brakes are more than enough! Quote
supreme_style21 Posted December 23, 2003 Report Posted December 23, 2003 I still have yet to find any GM brakes that please me. The newer GM's brakes are decent.. but as I continue driving the cars and using the brakes, the quality just fades away.. the more miles they have on the system, the shittier they get. Ford brakes I love.. same with most imports. Quote
slick Posted December 23, 2003 Author Report Posted December 23, 2003 Yeah, ford brakes are awesome. So I should upgrade to a 95 or 96 gp brakes then? Quote
Sherlock Posted December 31, 2003 Report Posted December 31, 2003 97+ brakes use a single piston caliper and a smaller rotor. 1st gen uses a double piston and a 11.25in front rotor. Quote
slick Posted December 31, 2003 Author Report Posted December 31, 2003 Damn, so our older brakes are better, when there working atleast? Quote
GnatGoSplat Posted January 5, 2004 Report Posted January 5, 2004 No, not exactly. We have twin piston front calipers, but our rotors are only 1" thick vs. 1.25" thick of the 97+. 97+ have available 12" rotors as well. 97+ brakes aren't the best, but they're an improvement. The additional thickness makes them far less prone to warping. Quote
slick Posted January 5, 2004 Author Report Posted January 5, 2004 Hmmm.... Good info to know. I know this is gonna sound like a dumb question, but would it be possible to use the newer style rotors with my calipers? That way i could get the benefit of dual piston calipers and bigger rotors? I know that i would have to change my bracketry, but that's really no problem. Quote
GnatGoSplat Posted January 5, 2004 Report Posted January 5, 2004 I don't think so. Not without thinner-than-normal pads. You'd need to grind off about 1/8" off each pad for the caliper to fit over the rotor. You'd definitely need to custom weld some bracketry to the front knuckle because the 97+ rotors have a different offset. Quote
Jon89le Posted January 5, 2004 Report Posted January 5, 2004 Didnt the GPs from a certain year+ get a larger Brake Booster? If so, which year? I think our problem has to do with the boosters as well not being 'large' enough to allow the pads to bite. Quote
GnatGoSplat Posted January 5, 2004 Report Posted January 5, 2004 94 was the first year of the bigger brake booster. Avoid the bigger brake booster if you have a 5-speed car or have even the slightest desire to swap a 5-speed into your car. Quote
slick Posted January 5, 2004 Author Report Posted January 5, 2004 Damn. So there is really nothing i could do without spending a few hundred bucks on a new brake system then. What about off of Bonneville's? How different are there's from ours? Quote
Jon89le Posted January 5, 2004 Report Posted January 5, 2004 Is it just as easy as taking mine off and putting the larger one on? Or will something not fit and/or need modification? Quote
Jon89le Posted January 5, 2004 Report Posted January 5, 2004 Bro, if you really dont wanna spend much go get yourself some GreenStuff pads or Hawk HP pads with either plain or slotted rotors. Either one of those pads really bite. My dad has the Hawk pads on his '94 Z34 and it sets off the ABS even with slightly glazed front rotors. Tirerack sells them. Whatever you do just stay away from Ceramic if you want stopping performance. I cant even lock the wheels up on my '89 IN THE RAIN! Quote
GnatGoSplat Posted January 5, 2004 Report Posted January 5, 2004 The easiest way to get bigger brakes on a W-body is to swap in the 96+ knuckles that are designed for 11.25" rotors. I'm about to do that on my 89, but still gotta wait for UPS to bring me more tools. Quote
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