jiggity76 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schurkey Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 What vehicle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggity76 Posted May 29 Author Report Share Posted May 29 3 hours ago, Schurkey said: What vehicle? Cutlass Supreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 LOL........what's the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggity76 Posted May 29 Author Report Share Posted May 29 2 hours ago, 55trucker said: LOL........what's the question? Sorry, wasn't really asking a question but thought I would just post it for guys not having the manual or needing this repair done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 36 minutes ago, jiggity76 said: Sorry, wasn't really asking a question but thought I would just post it for guys not having the manual or needing this repair done. Gibb's rule #6...never say you're sorry..lol jiggity76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggity76 Posted May 29 Author Report Share Posted May 29 2 hours ago, 55trucker said: Gibb's rule #6...never say you're sorry..lol This will be some good information that I can arm myself with when it comes time to have the International's alignment checked. I will definitely be bringing this with me to hopefully help the tech out...and therefor myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 I don't think there is an auto manufacturer who where their current models are concerned uses a + (positive) setting for either the front or rear camber. General handling purposes are now usually a - (negative) camber setting. Much better handling characteristics than any setting at a + (positive) camber angle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggity76 Posted May 29 Author Report Share Posted May 29 24 minutes ago, 55trucker said: I don't think there is an auto manufacturer who where their current models are concerned uses a + (positive) setting for either the front or rear camber. General handling purposes are now usually a - (negative) camber setting. Much better handling characteristics than any setting at a + (positive) camber angle Interesting. I suppose better handling and sportiness is the goal now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schurkey Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 (edited) Kinda depends on the suspension geometry. If the suspension tends to go negative when the spring is compressed, a static positive setting MIGHT be appropriate. But I don't know if that's the case for an Olds Cutlass. I entirely do not understand how the "Service Checking" camber spec is -1.5 + or - .5 (Range -1 to -2) while the Service Setting is +.75. Doesn't make sense to me. ESPECIALLY since the Caster and Toe "Checking" spec and "Service" spec are essentially the same thing. I suspect an error in the service manual spec for camber "service" spec. Should be -1.5. Edited May 29 by Schurkey jiggity76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 (edited) You noticed that was well.... in my 91 service manual the *service checking* angle is +.10 (or) 1/10 degree positive ...plus or minus .5 (or) 1/2 degree service setting is + .5 degree...plus or minus .5 degree Edited May 30 by 55trucker jiggity76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggity76 Posted May 30 Author Report Share Posted May 30 5 hours ago, Schurkey said: Kinda depends on the suspension geometry. If the suspension tends to go negative when the spring is compressed, a static positive setting MIGHT be appropriate. But I don't know if that's the case for an Olds Cutlass. I entirely do not understand how the "Service Checking" camber spec is -1.5 + or - .5 (Range -1 to -2) while the Service Setting is +.75. Doesn't make sense to me. ESPECIALLY since the Caster and Toe "Checking" spec and "Service" spec are essentially the same thing. I suspect an error in the service manual spec for camber "service" spec. Should be -1.5. 50 minutes ago, 55trucker said: You noticed that was well.... in my 91 service manual the *service checking* angle is +.10 (or) 1/10 degree positive ...plus or minus .5 (or) 1/2 degree service setting is + .5 degree...plus or minus .5 degree So...what should I do here guys come alignment time at a shop? Take all this info with me? Do you think they'll have specs saved in their system for our cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 Any alignment shop will have the cars specs programmed into the racks electronic head unit. That shouldn't be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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