93vinX Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 i need to kno if the 282 and the 284 hae the same slave cylender or not and if the pedalin a manual car with a 3.1 is the same ...i wanna swap it all in then just drop in a 284...are they the same? thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 The slave cylinder is different, and the pedal is the same. I would say do a search or, just put a 282 in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian89gp Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 The 282 gearing would suck for your 3.4. The slaves are different, the masters are different, shift cables are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93vinX Posted December 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 the gears would suck because tyhey are short or what?... ne one kno if the horse power ratings are the same on the 284 and 282 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 I know someone who swapped a 282 to his 3.4 and he said he noticed minimal differences on performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0sh_man Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 i was under the assumption that both trannys were 3.61 final drive.... anyone know something different? the only cars that got a getrag with different gearing were the 93-94 olds achieva SCX with the HO quad4 w41 option (190HP) i hear they got a 3.91 final drive getrag. matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skalor Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 A 282 has a 3.61 FDR, while a 284 has a 3.67 FDR. You can find gearing info on brian89gp's page. 8) http://www.brian89gp.com/other/transmission.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94Z34 Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 You would see minimal difference between the 284 and 282 if the 1-5 gear ratios are the same. As for power I have seen Beretta guys put a l67 behind a 282 and they havn't flown apart yet. A manual transmission puts more power to the ground period. an auto has a loss of like 20% horse power and a manual is like 15%. dont quote me on that though. Plus you have more gears and can control the power band yourself. IF you had 2.14 gears like I had in my cutlass, then put 3.73 posi in it, you would notice a difference . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian89gp Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 You might only notice a small perf difference between a 282 and 284, but the 282 is still less then ideal. An upshift into 2nd drops the rpm's to at or below 4k and 5th gear is way too short. As for the 282 being bullet proof, it isn't. All those cars that have a v8 or l67 behind them are much much lighter then a w-body. You might be able to get away with it in a w-body but it is still a question of when, not if the thing breaks. I also have heard that the 282 doesn't like to shift above 6k or so. The 282 weighs 100lbs, the 284 150lbs. There is a reason for this. I will agree that the 282 is better then an auto but if you have the DOHC I would hightly suggest making the effort to find a 284. Then there is the clutch, a stock 282 or even a fairly mild performance clutch will not do. You'd probably need to buy a 9 11/16" pressure plate and a performance disc. I won't say the 282 isn't worth it or bad, but the 284 is definately a better choice if you have the DOHC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94Z34 Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Since you put it that way I agree . The 284 is geared better to handle the high power band of the DOHC. I wish my 94 z34 had a 5-speed . My pervious car was a 92 beretta, and it had the hm-282 in it . You are right when you get to about 5800 rpm's mine didn't like to shift very well either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 The quad 4s shifted at 7400 RPM, so I hope those 282s dont mind. Curtis shifts at 8000, but he has trouble with high speed I believe. I dont recall exactly...over 155 mph kills them or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94Z34 Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 intresting I forgot about the quads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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