Imp558 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Soldering is also easy. actually I'm glad this little discussion came up because I just looked and the Monte Carlo that I'm preparing the l67 for also has the wrong fuel injector plugs. when I converted over I'll do a little write-up and chase some of the voodoo out of it. those are not EV6 injector plugs from the factory they are Delphi Mini. in other news I got my floor press yesterday! in the near future I'm going to press a couple of supercharger snouts apart and rebuild them, I'm already planning a write up for it and then once I get a couple of them under my belt I should be able to rebuild them for other members but we will know that they have a good brand of bearings and seal in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandprix1 Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Soldering is also easy. actually I'm glad this little discussion came up because I just looked and the Monte Carlo that I'm preparing the l67 for also has the wrong fuel injector plugs. when I converted over I'll do a little write-up and chase some of the voodoo out of it. those are not EV6 injector plugs from the factory they are Delphi Mini. in other news I got my floor press yesterday! in the near future I'm going to press a couple of supercharger snouts apart and rebuild them, I'm already planning a write up for it and then once I get a couple of them under my belt I should be able to rebuild them for other members but we will know that they have a good brand of bearings and seal in them.Oh lucky. I just want to make sure I'm not doing this wrong. I don't want to change a crank pulley and have it fall off or buy the wrong injector plugs or the wrong map or anything. I want this to be as easy as it can be Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 if there's a member anywhere near you w body people are usually easily lured with the promise of free pizza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandprix1 Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 if there's a member anywhere near you w body people are usually easily lured with the promise of free pizza.I didn't even need to offer pizza just asked if he wanted to help install Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandprix1 Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Here is everything I got. Everything looks good. Included pushrods and head bolts as well. Vacuum lines are broke in the SC so L67SS I'll get those from you. What else is needed here? I have the injectors btw. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l67ss Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Coil bracket, balancer, valve covers, TBI, idler, tensioner and valve covers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandprix1 Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Here is the injector connection. EV6 to EV1 correct? This being an EV1 what's on the car being an EV6? I'll take a pic of what's on the car tomorrow. Second image is an adapter that was on one of them. Also would connect to my injectors Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 the injector plugs that are on your car should be Delphi mini, what you have there is not an adapter it's a plug that was torn apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 left to right Delphi Mini, Delphi EV6, Delphi EV1... l67ss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandprix1 Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 left to right Delphi Mini, Delphi EV6, Delphi EV1... 20170427_160541.jpg yes that looks about right. So I need a Delphi mini to EV6? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Mini to EV1, or the plugs I posted links to for $3 each and just crimp them on. Or you could use mini to EV6 adapters and plug that into EV6 to EV1 adapters to get the maximum combination of useless parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Huh. I had no idea the 3800 ever used the Delphi mini/EV14. I always thought the 01+ L36s used EV6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 He may have EV6 but this 01 Monte is mini so it would be odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 His factory plugs are definitely EV14. Looks like the L36 had them from 2001+. The L27 and L32 are all EV6. Learn something new every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I've owned that Monte for almost 2 months and just noticed. digitaloutsider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandprix1 Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 There's a special tool, you can get by with regular wire crimpers from a chain store though. When you're ready to do this let me know and I'll do a pictorial tutorial for you (BTW: Pictorial Tutorial would make an interesting band name). EV1 Plug Body (Need 6): http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/12129142/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs7eK6h2EBtKmtcsBT8Jq5J%252bgzSdZ9o4j4%3d EV1 Pins (Need 12 but maybe get a couple extra in case you fuck one up): http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/12103360/?qs=%2fha2pyFadujJaJCAjDwCUai%2fHBcP9TZzENkjHXDLp9I%3d MAP Sensor Plug: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/12041332-B/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs7eK6h2EBtKh1TC0gptBXgCWA7mLCRBso%3d MAP Sensor Pins (Need 3): http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/12089040-L/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs7eK6h2EBtKnSHa2PTj7tEF%252bHEVOLXids%3d MAP Sensor Rubber seals (Need 3): http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Delphi-Connection-Systems/15324985/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs7eK6h2EBtKmtcsBT8Jq5Jn%2f4%2fmFrxWak%3d 30 bucks for all those. Not bad. I'll order once my eBay thing finishes processing. What gauge wire should I use? And how long should I make the wire? Can anyone tell me where the map sensor goes? So far I haven't been able to find where it connects. There's a connection by what looks to be the blow off valve but that's it. Does look like the 3 pin map sensor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 The MAP sits on the firewall side of the motor, behind the SC on a bracket that bolts to the SC. It has a 3 prong connector and a vacuum line running to it. What exactly are you seeing that you think is a BOV....? There is no BOV on a roots blower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandprix1 Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 The MAP sits on the firewall side of the motor, behind the SC on a bracket that bolts to the SC. It has a 3 prong connector and a vacuum line running to it. What exactly are you seeing that you think is a BOV....? There is no BOV on a roots blower. Ok that's why I can't find the connector for that cause I don't have that bracket and sensor yet. I think im thinking of the blow by valve which is circular by the throttle body connection. Connected to a spring that turns. Has a 2 prong electrical connection on it that I have yet to see on my harness. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Are you talking about the boost bypass valve? The black plastic thing on the front of the blower? You don't have a plug for it on your harness. You can either leave the electrical connection off and delete the DTC or get a pigtail and pin it into your PCM harness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandprix1 Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Are you talking about the boost bypass valve? The black plastic thing on the front of the blower? You don't have a plug for it on your harness. You can either leave the electrical connection off and delete the DTC or get a pigtail and pin it into your PCM harness.Well if it doesn't do anything then let's delete it? Is that the valve that lets boost out while idling? What needs to be done to delete it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 The BBV needs to be there, the plug is kinda optional. The PCM can command the solenoid to open the valve under various conditions like catalyst overheat, speed limiter, etc. The BBV will still function otherwise with just the vacuum connection. The purpose of the BBV is to keep the car out of boost until moderate/full throttle (so at idle, cruise, light accel, etc.). For your car it would be as simple as just not connecting the plug to anything and deleting whatever DTC gets set in the tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandprix1 Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 The BBV needs to be there, the plug is kinda optional. The PCM can command the solenoid to open the valve under various conditions like catalyst overheat, speed limiter, etc. The BBV will still function otherwise with just the vacuum connection. The purpose of the BBV is to keep the car out of boost until moderate/full throttle (so at idle, cruise, light accel, etc.). For your car it would be as simple as just not connecting the plug to anything and deleting whatever DTC gets set in the tune. Ok and then how hard would it be make a connection? I've got wires for the PCM if it's just another 30 cent plug on that site Tom gave me I'll just make a plug Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 It would be exactly the same as when you installed the performance shift pin in the harness. Just go get the pigtail off a junkyard car and extend the wires over to the PCM and pin it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandprix1 Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 It would be exactly the same as when you installed the performance shift pin in the harness. Just go get the pigtail off a junkyard car and extend the wires over to the PCM and pin it in.Ok I'm headed up there again Monday I'll grab that plug. I'm going to use a metal razor blade to prep the heads. I'm guessing we can use the same thing for the block. I don't have any fancy super fast spinning tools. Except a dremal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Don't really want to use a spinning sanding disc on the head or block anyway, gasket scraper is fine. Be careful when you use the razor blade to make sure you don't nick the surface. Brake clean can help remove stubborn gasket material. If you ever find yourself over on the west side of Frederick, can you see if the W Express on W Patrick St still sells E85? Nas Escobar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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