stuhrling Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 I am going to have to change my power steering lines on my 2002 Intrigue with 3.5l engine. I can obtain the pressure line without a problem. When it comes to the power steering fluid cooler tube GM sites say that it is discontinued for the 02 Intrigue with a 3.5l (gm 26074657). Yet, they list what looks to be the same piece for a 99 Intrigue with a 3.5l but with a different number (gm 26077908) as available. Would this piece for a 99 Intrigue (gm 26077908) interchange with the 02 (gm 26074657)? Also, is this piece pressurized? Would appreciate any help! Quote
l67ss Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 Why would you have to change the entire return line? Quote
stuhrling Posted March 6, 2017 Author Report Posted March 6, 2017 The rubber portions are leaking and there are several areas of advanced rust on the steel portion. Quote
l67ss Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 If you cut the steel back a bit you can use 3/8" fuel line. And if you replace the lines make sure to get acdelco lines. I learned the hard way lol Quote
Schurkey Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 If you cut the steel back a bit you can use 3/8" fuel line. ABSOLUTELY NOT! Typical fuel hose will not accept the high temperature that PS fluid can reach. There's very little pressure in the return side of the system, so fuel hose will handle the pressure--but not the temperature. That's why PS systems often (not always) include some kind of fluid cooler--the fluid can get REALLY HOT. Depending on the hose, there may or may not be a problem with chemical compatibility when using fuel hose on a PS system. Real, live PS return hose can be had at any auto parts store. It's not hugely expensive. I have replaced the hose sections of the PS return/cooler on my first-gen using PS hose and "fuel injection" shielded clamps. Regular worm-drive clamps will work for awhile, then the rubber cold-flows through all the slots in the clamp, the clamp loses tension, and then it leaks like mad when it's cold out--or the hose pops off the tubing. You need a clamp that does not promote the cold-flow. Double-clamping helps. The advantage of a "new" return tube/hose assembly is the crimping of the hose to the tube--the crimping is a more-secure system than just clamping. For the record, I bought a hose/cooler tube assembly for my first-gen "W" from NAPA for about $35. When I couldn't get at the threaded fitting on the steering rack, I just replaced the rubber sections of the original assembly. It was still a PITA, but it seemed more do-able than replacing the entire assembly. Now I get to do it again after about seven or eight years, because it's back to leaking in the cold. Maybe I'll pull the "new" return/cooler out of the plastic bag and actually replace the whole thing this time. What I mean by cold-flowing, an example from an in-tank fuel pump installation: The "fuel Injection" clamps are posed by the worm-drive "Breeze" clamps. Quote
l67ss Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 The return line has very little pressure. In fact the where the return line hooks to the pump it uses a cheap clamp. So my comment is correct Quote
Schurkey Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 How does assessment of a clamp as "cheap" affect the fluid temperature at the first hose section from the steering gear in the cooler assembly? Did I not mention that there's little pressure in the return cooler/hose assembly? Typical fuel hose is not rated for PS Return use largely due to temperature of the PS fluid as it exits the steering gear--which is why there's a "cooler" installed in the first place. As said, there MAY also be an issue of chemical compatibility, but temperature is the overriding issue. Quote
l67ss Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 The cooler on mine was added from a police car. And most parts stores (like O'Reilly) give you the 3/8" line when you ask for a return line. Quote
l67ss Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 And I've used the same hose on my trans lines 3 yrs now no issues and I know atf reaches higher temps Quote
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