tonytoca_87 Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Hello everyone. Anyone have any luck installing HID'S in there cutlass. I was told the bulbs can not be replaced so how would I be able to install a hid kit if this is true? Thanks. tonytoca_87 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Escobar Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I assume you're talking about the coupe lights... Those are "sealed beam" lights, although they are not your standard square or circle lights. They're actually 9006 bulbs glued into a glass housing. If you pry them off, you can get them out and glue in the HID bulb in place of the normal bulb. That's the way you do this. I have HIDs in my Cutlass. tonytoca_87 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_e777 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 There are also some on the shelf at AZ that mimic the HID look but do not require the resistor or any sort of modification other than DE-sealing the sealed beams. They come in the plastic case vs the paper package and IIRC its about $45 for a pair of them. I thought about installing them but I want to keep the traditional glow from the halogens on my Cutlass. GTP gets the LED look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytoca_87 Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I appreciate your help. I'm going to try it on my 95 vert. Thanks bro I assume you're talking about the coupe lights... Those are "sealed beam" lights, although they are not your standard square or circle lights. They're actually 9006 bulbs glued into a glass housing. If you pry them off, you can get them out and glue in the HID bulb in place of the normal bulb. That's the way you do this. I have HIDs in my Cutlass. Nas Escobar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytoca_87 Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Cool appreciate your time and help. There are also some on the shelf at AZ that mimic the HID look but do not require the resistor or any sort of modification other than DE-sealing the sealed beams. They come in the plastic case vs the paper package and IIRC its about $45 for a pair of them. I thought about installing them but I want to keep the traditional glow from the halogens on my Cutlass. GTP gets the LED look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Escobar Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 There are also some on the shelf at AZ that mimic the HID look but do not require the resistor or any sort of modification other than DE-sealing the sealed beams. They come in the plastic case vs the paper package and IIRC its about $45 for a pair of them. I thought about installing them but I want to keep the traditional glow from the halogens on my Cutlass. GTP gets the LED look. HID kits don't require resistors though, those are LED bulbs. HID kits are usually plug and play, it's the housing that's not made for HID, not the wiring but you can run HID kits without modifying the housing, it just borders the line of illegal (since the beam pattern on HID bulbs are different from halogen ones). It works with the miniquads because they're so small that the beam pattern is insignificant with them. Yes if they're aimed improperly you'll blind other drivers, but they're not like other housings in which no amount of adjustment will fix the issue or better said, no matter what you do you'll get pulled over for having bright lights on (people that get pulled over for it usually get cited for driving with their high beams on, not running improper bulb types). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 could pop the headlights apart and install a cutoff shield and put a clear plastic lens in place of the fluted glass one, that should prevent any stray light from going where it shouldn't. without a lens in front of the bulb, may have to make a foreground limiter as well, but I'm not 100% on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 It's not too difficult to manufacture a Casper shield for the low beams... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsl67 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Here is what I did on my 95' vert & 96' coupe. Check out this link on eBay. With these lights you run whatever bulb you wish. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-1996-Pontiac-Grand-Prix-with-4-headlight-4351-4352-HEADLIGHTS-NEW-/170869019396?hash=item27c8965304 tonytoca_87 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 What's the dimensions on the housings? Morimoto has a pretty small bi-xenon projector that could possibly be retrofitted in. If you're putting in HIDs, might as well do it right, if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 ??.. 4351/4352 rectangular glass sealed beam the closest item I've come across as an upgrade that uses removable bulbs is this....... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-1997-CHEVY-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-EURO-CRYSTAL-CLEAR-HEADLIGHTS-WIRINGS-BULBS/311519744362?_trksid=p2047675.c100013.m1986&_trkparms=aid%3D333008%26algo%3DRIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131223115610%26meid%3D8c20b243f31c43a9bc11a9cb28991b1f%26pid%3D100013%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D311165394274 the lenses appear to be a projector style which would be useful where an hid bulb is used.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 i have morimoto mini h1 (knockoffs) for the MC headlamps, I'm fairly certain they won't fit in a miniquad headlamp.... I have been suggested to look into "matchbox" projectors for the miniquad housings, but I didn't go too far down that path since I was concentrating on the MC stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 ^^ those mori minis are 2.5" lens projectors BTW. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-Motorcycle-Headlight-2-0-inch-Bi-Xenon-HID-Projector-Lens-Kit-with-LED/1670473237.html?spm=2114.40010208.4.140.uIj9Sr here are some 2.0" units which MIGHT fit in the miniquad housings, especially if the shroud were left off(or at least trimmed), would have to find dimensions on it to be certain though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytoca_87 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 This seems legit. Thanks for your help. Here is what I did on my 95' vert & 96' coupe. Check out this link on eBay. With these lights you run whatever bulb you wish. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-1996-Pontiac-Grand-Prix-with-4-headlight-4351-4352-HEADLIGHTS-NEW-/170869019396?hash=item27c8965304 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Good quality LED's will keep almost the same light pattern as halogens, without all the scattering that you get from HIDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Escobar Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 ??.. 4351/4352 rectangular glass sealed beam the closest item I've come across as an upgrade that uses removable bulbs is this....... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-1997-CHEVY-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-EURO-CRYSTAL-CLEAR-HEADLIGHTS-WIRINGS-BULBS/311519744362?_trksid=p2047675.c100013.m1986&_trkparms=aid%3D333008%26algo%3DRIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131223115610%26meid%3D8c20b243f31c43a9bc11a9cb28991b1f%26pid%3D100013%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D311165394274 the lenses appear to be a projector style which would be useful where an hid bulb is used.... Too bad those would be plastic instead of glass. Although at $150, it gives me ideas to make the Cutlass more badass. I have this idea specifically with the inner turn signal that I want to do (basically clear it out). I was going to use the glass from the low beam sealed beam but this may be a better idea. Only thing is that this isn't a projector style, it simply has a shroud/cap on it which would help with the less desired effect of HIDs. The cap/shroud is what certain cars have which help dim out the HID a bit. i have morimoto mini h1 (knockoffs) for the MC headlamps, I'm fairly certain they won't fit in a miniquad headlamp.... I have been suggested to look into "matchbox" projectors for the miniquad housings, but I didn't go too far down that path since I was concentrating on the MC stuff. Matchbox projectors is what people say will fit. In fact someone on a Camaro forum does this for $600. http://ls1tech.com/forums/chevrolet-camaro-1967-2002/1502572-blackbird-lighting-solutions-bls-93-97-camaro-proj-headlight-retro-intro-gp.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Too bad those would be plastic instead of glass. Read the listing, these are glass, the reflectors are fluted for projector purposes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pshojo Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I just bought set of HID from diode dynamics. Hoping these work well. Is the scatter typically different on HID and halogen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 HIDs in a reflector housing not designed for them always scatter. The reflector is designed to work with a stable filament, not an electrical arc that's always moving. Nas Escobar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabsOlds Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 I just bought set of HID from diode dynamics. Hoping these work well. Is the scatter typically different on HID and halogen? I know it's been a while, but how did these turn out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 I've had numerous sets from hidlook.com. For the most part they live a long life but there have been a couple ballasts that failed prematurely. Keep in mind I've had a bunch of sets though so nothing I wouldn't consider acceptable losses. There's a thread here where I compared them to halogen with a lux meter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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