Imp558 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 This was scheduled for today and I had to reschedule for Thursday. The weld shop I use didn't have any qualms about this plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l67ss Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 My idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 My idea? Yeah, second gen mounts welded onto a first gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l67ss Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Lemme know how it works out. I never got a chance to try it and as it was only for added strength in my case(car has zero rust) other stuff took priority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 I'll post pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l67ss Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Thanks dude. I'm still planning on doing it myself but like I said priorities lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95GS Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 I'll post pics Thanks, I'll be watching too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Dropped the Regal off at the weld shop tonight. Should have some pics tomorrow of a first gen with second gen trailing arm mounts welded in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) $150 was all for labor! They cut everything out and rebuild the entire area. They welded all around the front and back of the mount and it looks like it'll never go anywhere. I have 3 fingertips between the tire and front of the wheel well exactly on both sides so they got it lined up really nice too. Behold the first 2nd gen trailing arm mount welded to a first gen! I will get better pictures when I get it up in the air next time. Â Edited August 18, 2016 by Imp558 primergray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Damn it the picture's upside down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Escobar Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Now the biggest question is... what's the benefit of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Now the biggest question is... what's the benefit of this? well, having them upside down really isn't much of a benefit... Imp558 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 When they rot out there isn't much to weld to. This gives us a more durable repair option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95GS Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Nice to have that firmed up. I'll await pics to better understand where they went for good purchase. At the annual oil spray I make sure this area gets well doused. And then spray it myself with a rust proofer (rattle can) at regular intervals.  Perhaps an obvious answer, but did they locate the mount by using the trailing arm while connected to the spindle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Escobar Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 When they rot out there isn't much to weld to. This gives us a more durable repair option. Â So the 2nd gen is wider than the 1st gen ones? I'm kinda confused, I thought when they rusted out, they would have to weld new metal on to the area and go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 First gen mounts are hung from inside the structure of the car. Just the mount itself is visible so when the area rusts there isn't much to weld to for the repair. Nas Escobar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95GS Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 First gen mounts are hung from inside the structure of the car. Just the mount itself is visible so when the area rusts there isn't much to weld to for the repair. Thanks, that's a bit clearer now and now evident when comparing your before and after pics. So in some way the welder must reinforce the underbody to provide a firm, flat base for the external mounts. And hopefully seal it from the elements too. The original design is a real trap for water, salt & muck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l67ss Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 So I had a good idea....YAY!! Imp558 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l67ss Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Another advantage from what I could tell was that they are made from thicker metal. As my car is the oddball rust free w I was mainly looking at this idea to add rigidity. Thank you for actually testing it...who knows when I would have gotten around to it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Escobar Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Another advantage from what I could tell was that they are made from thicker metal. As my car is the oddball rust free w I was mainly looking at this idea to add rigidity. Thank you for actually testing it...who knows when I would have gotten around to it lol  Both my Regal and Cutlass are rust free. My Z34 only had rust where the battery went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 It was welded twice before and only lasted a while. again it wasn't fair because the roads are really awful here. This seems to be a lot sturdier since there was more surface area to weld to.The thing that scares me is that when it tore out the other times the bulk of it was up inside so it was still kind of there, now I feel like if it breaks it'll fall off and the wheel could fold back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95GS Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016  now I feel like if it breaks it'll fall off and the wheel could fold back. True, but if the welding is solid, an annual visual inspection (mirror & pointed hammer) should reveal any corrosion. Though I don't know the unibody construction at that juncture, is it possible to get access from above and spray with a good anti-rust oil? Such as removing the rear seat?  I'll need to do this same job one day, so am glad to know about it. It's a wonder that Nas has rust free (older!) models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primergray Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Erie PA is a lot saltier then Washington DC and its 'burbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp558 Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 This thread has some really good pics of a first gen mount  http://www.w-body.com/topic/53572-rear-suspension-rebuild/?hl=knuckle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95GS Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Thanks Imp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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