Buick666 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Posted September 16, 2013 I'm looking around for a front solid sway bar et better than stock front struts. I got a price on KYB Exel-G front struts for 128$ EACH 'Outch' Did anybody tried them?? Or should i go for Monroes?? And also,what would be the best front sway bar option? Does Addco make a front solid bar? Thanks for the help guys! Quote
Andrew Posted September 16, 2013 Report Posted September 16, 2013 Exel-G are a forum favorite(formerly called GR2). Monroe Sensatracs are pretty simliar in value and performance. Not sure if there are aftermarket sways anymore. Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Posted September 16, 2013 There are no solid front bars. Largest is around a 34mm. Addco makes the largest rear bar at 7/8". Sent from my iPhone Quote
ManicMechanic Posted September 16, 2013 Report Posted September 16, 2013 I think (trying to remember math and engineering classes) that the 22MM rear bar found on 1995 and 1996 Z34s is very close to that 7/8s. Quote
9RegalGS2 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Posted September 16, 2013 hey buick666 i think rockauto has those kybs alot cheaper.provided they are the cartridge design.im also in the process of up-dating/grading my suspension.ive heard you can also move frm the coilless rear struts the early wbodies had and move to the 3 bolt coil design.something about drilling a 3rd hole in the tower etc...that may also open up more rear suspension upgrades.i have the 2 bolt non spring rears on mine. Quote
jman093 Posted September 17, 2013 Report Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) $128 for KYB's? Look elsewhere. They're like $50. Personally I think Monroes, Gabbies, and KYBs are all about the same. The forum seems to prefer the KYBs and KYB claims they're stiffer, so they're probably the safest bet, but all of them are extremely poor performance shocks. (I ran KYB's on coilovers on the rear of my old GTP). They are all designed to be good-enough replacements for steetcorner garages hocking blown-shock upsells and Grandpa's Buick. FWIW, GM rebadges Monroes under their ACDelco name. These are all that's available for the rear though. If you want performance front shocks you will have to pay for it. Adjustable Koni Race: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/kon-86101437race An Addco rear bar is probably the single best handling upgrade you can do (besides tires of course). The 34mm hollow bar, as mentioned, is the largest available for front. You can throw poly bushings on it for a little more leverage. 34mm is pretty damn big and it's actually pretty good for the street. If you're doing one, do the rear bar. It'll help a lot more with our plowing understeer. Edited September 17, 2013 by jman093 Quote
rich_e777 Posted September 17, 2013 Report Posted September 17, 2013 Strut tower braces will also help as well as poly bushings. KYB struts are a little bit stiffer than stock and really make an improvement if you need to replace them anyways. FE3 rated springs are a bit stiffer than most. Not really much else that hasn`t been mentioned. Anyone bitching they cannot get their 15+ year old, FWD, large, sporty passenger car to make chicane turns at 80 mph they really need to re-evaluate their power plant and consider maneuvering thrusters:lol: Quote
l67ss Posted September 17, 2013 Report Posted September 17, 2013 Upgrading the rear bar will CAUSE understeer learned the hard way upgraded rear of my monte first cause its the easy bar undefsteered like a mofo till i did the front one $128 for KYB's? Look elsewhere. They're like $50. Personally I think Monroes, Gabbies, and KYBs are all about the same. The forum seems to prefer the KYBs and KYB claims they're stiffer, so they're probably the safest bet, but all of them are extremely poor performance shocks. (I ran KYB's on coilovers on the rear of my old GTP). They are all designed to be good-enough replacements for steetcorner garages hocking blown-shock upsells and Grandpa's Buick. FWIW, GM rebadges Monroes under their ACDelco name. These are all that's available for the rear though. If you want performance front shocks you will have to pay for it. Adjustable Koni Race: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/kon-86101437race An Addco rear bar is probably the single best handling upgrade you can do (besides tires of course). The 34mm hollow bar, as mentioned, is the largest available for front. You can throw poly bushings on it for a little more leverage. 34mm is pretty damn big and it's actually pretty good for the street. If you're doing one, do the rear bar. It'll help a lot more with our plowing understeer. Quote
jman093 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 Upgrading the rear bar will CAUSE understeer learned the hard way upgraded rear of my monte first cause its the easy bar undefsteered like a mofo till i did the front one No. It doesn't. You have no clue. I race my Corvette now, but I've spent a lot time racing and working with the w-body suspension. I've sent an oversteering w-body spinning out on course more times than I care to remember. Quote
Buick666 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Posted September 18, 2013 Wow thanks alot for the info guys! And where can i find the front 34mm bar actually?? Z34 ?? Quote
ThumpInTheTrunk Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 As stated, $128 for KYBs is way too much. Try tirerack.com or American-Powerhouse.com for MUCH better prices. You should be able to find them for $50 easy. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2 Quote
ManicMechanic Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 Wow thanks alot for the info guys!And where can i find the front 34mm bar actually?? Z34 ?? Amy 3.4 DOHC car will have one. Luminas and Monte Carlos up to 1999 can have them too. Quote
Buick666 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Posted September 18, 2013 Amy 3.4 DOHC car will have one. Luminas and Monte Carlos up to 1999 can have them too. That cool thanks! Just checked the prices for struts and shocks on rockauto.com... I'm getting my ass raped big time with my prices! Quote
rich_e777 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 Buy in increments and start a pile, easier month to month. Or every now and then members here will sell stuff at good prices. Quote
l67ss Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 I hav no clue huh? When i was doing my suspension i lived in north central arkansas i upgraded the rear i had to yank the wheel hard did the front bar back to easy controllable steering it doesnt matter what its on understeer is understeer which is caused by having too stiff of a rear suspension compared to the front No. It doesn't. You have no clue. I race my Corvette now, but I've spent a lot time racing and working with the w-body suspension. I've sent an oversteering w-body spinning out on course more times than I care to remember. Quote
l67ss Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 If u sent them spinning that was likely OVERSTEER otherwise u would hav driven straight off course I hav no clue huh? When i was doing my suspension i lived in north central arkansas i upgraded the rear i had to yank the wheel hard did the front bar back to easy controllable steering it doesnt matter what its on understeer is understeer which is caused by having too stiff of a rear suspension compared to the front Quote
Buick666 Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Posted September 20, 2013 Will be ordering KYB's this winter. Would it be a better buy if a get them all assemble?? Seems to me to be a better price. Quote
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