pacesetters

[l67ss]

How much roughly is a used set of pacesetters worth with roughly 60k iles thanks

[White93z34]

Not worth the metal they are made of, fuck those things.

[l67ss]

Guess i got my answer

Not worth the metal they are made of, fuck those things.

[White93z34]

If you are cutting them up/modding to fit your first gen then it might be worthwhile if you can get em really cheap and fix the problems they have at that point. But as far as their intended application (second gens), hell no. Buy the $200 speed daddys on ebay and call it a day.

[RobertISaar]

Buy the $200 speed daddys on ebay and call it a day.

 

after beating the living shit out of your firewall and swapping in thinner fans, IIRC.

[WhatTheFehl]

after beating the living shit out of your firewall and swapping in thinner fans, IIRC.

 

Nope. Mine went on without any real problems.

[AL]

You dont have a first gen Mike

[WhatTheFehl]

We were talking about both 1st gens and 2nd gens, 1st gens indeed will need pounding of the firewall, but that will be for any headers designed for 2nd gens going on a 1st gen.

[Galaxie500XL]

Getting back to the original question, though, I really can't imagine a situation in which buying used headers with 60,000 miles on them sounds like a good idea. If you're going to go to all that trouble, you're far better off getting NEW ones that aren't already pretty well used up..and most likely have warped flanges.

[skitchin]

$5

[l67ss]

Im just bummed cause i missed out on a deal on someNICE slps

[White93z34]

Well no matter what you'll be doing mods to fit headers on a first gen.

[l67ss]

I knew about the mafia style firewall persuation

Well no matter what you'll be doing mods to fit headers on a first gen.

[carkhz316]

Ha, I wish they were only 200 on ebay. Try triple that

[WhatTheFehl]

Speed Daddy headers are about $220 on Ebay

[White93z34]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAINLESS-SS-RACING-MANIFOLD-HEADER-EXHAUST-GRAND-PRIX-GTP-REGAL-IMPALA-3-8L-V6-/190783013604?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AGrand+Prix&hash=item2c6b8dc2e4&vxp=mtr

[l67ss]

White, im gonna pass on the pacesetters i trust ur opinion plus ima talk u outta that lumina someday

[carkhz316]

Damn, I guess they're making some again. Might have to cave and get some for the Monte.

[l67ss]

Details on ur monte?

Damn, I guess they're making some again. Might have to cave and get some for the Monte.

[carkhz316]

'98 Monte Z34, top-swapped 3800 with 3.8 pulley. No real mods other than a FWI and homemade 3" DP. Also, it's a 5 speed 284 with a Spec stage 2 clutch

[l67ss]

Nice im goin same basic route only with a 97 ls and im thinkin goin f40 six-speed easier to find

'98 Monte Z34, top-swapped 3800 with 3.8 pulley. No real mods other than a FWI and homemade 3" DP. Also, it's a 5 speed 284 with a Spec stage 2 clutch

[carkhz316]

That would be really cool. My back up plan, should I ever be without a working 284 or related parts, is to convert to a 6 speed. I may do it in the future for the heck of it, since coming this far. I know it's a bit more work, but if a 2nd gen has done it, I'm sure I can do it to our 1.5's

[l67ss]

Actually prolly easier than a 2nd gen we hav a narrower track and one thing iirc is that the axles were 2" too narrow overall

That would be really cool. My back up plan, should I ever be without a working 284 or related parts, is to convert to a 6 speed. I may do it in the future for the heck of it, since coming this far. I know it's a bit more work, but if a 2nd gen has done it, I'm sure I can do it to our 1.5's

[l67ss]

Guess my car isnt so much of a 97 ls anymore as 98 z34/05 ss hybrid w 97 title lol

[Philbo Baggins]

So i've always wondered this so i'm posting here instead of making new thread: what is it about the 2nd gen headers that makes them hard to fit on a 1st gen? And are there headers that fit a 1st gen without advanced persuasion tactics?