Guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Hey Guys! I'd like to change the plugs someday in my Moms 93 Regal with a 3.1, but it looks like the rear plugs aren't going to be alot of fun to swap. Does anyone have any tips on how to make this easier? Thanks alot! Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intlcutlass Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 unbolt the at the front of the motor the "Dogbones" , and tilt the motor forward. Theat gives you more room to stick you hands back there to get the job done. Welcome to the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Or, if you have puny arms like me, you can reach back there and do them. But i suggest undoing the dogbones and doing the engine tilt. If fact, it is mentioned in this topic how to do it http://www.w-body.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9230 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93GTP Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 For my mother's car (3100) I usually take out the dogbones, hold then engine ahead with a chain, AND unbolt the coils packs as well. You probably don't need to, but I rather do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 OK! Thanks alot guys! I don't have real big arms either so maybe I can squeeze in there. Anyone know if you can get at em from underneath? I'll try tilting the engine foreward as a last resort. Don't get me wrong though, I really appreciate the advice! Had I not asked, I wouldn't have a last resort! I'll see if I can get at em first. Thanks alot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 I have another question. I was wondering about the proper proceedure to re-install the plugs. This engine has aluminum heads. I know if I remove the plug with the engine too warm, problems can occur. But I'd like to pull one to inspect it and then reinstall it, but I want to make sure I do it properly for aluminum heads. Everything else I've worked on (SBC's and SBO's) have cast iron heads. Thanks alot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93GTP Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Just make sure the engine is nice and cool, that's all, and well, dont put them in really really tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 For my mother's car (3100) I usually take out the dogbones, hold then engine ahead with a chain, AND unbolt the coils packs as well. You probably don't need to, but I rather do it. the backs are actually pretty easy on the 3100. i just take the coils off and sit on the motor since im short. it looks real stupid but it works fine. i can almost see the plugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 I can do them without tilting the motor. If you have small arms and know where they are located at, go at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey b Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 feed the plugs in by hand before you start racheting, or else you might crossthread and be fucked. And I don't think the engine has to be completely cool. Maybe after it sits for an hour or so it would be ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox340 Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 And I don't think the engine has to be completely cool. Oh, it better be! Or you may do more harm than good. Thermal expansion is a serious issue from not having metal parts crack or warp on you. - Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 And I don't think the engine has to be completely cool. Oh, it better be! Or you may do more harm than good. Thermal expansion is a serious issue from not having metal parts crack or warp on you. - Erik Plus, they are aluminum heads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intlcutlass Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 feed the plugs in by hand before you start racheting, or else you might crossthread and be fucked Very good suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Thanks very much for the help guys!! I really appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey b Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 How long do you think it would have to sit first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 How long do you think it would have to sit first? Until the plenum is cold to the touch, so like 3-5 hours after driving it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey b Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 shit, I put a fan on my engine for like 2 hours and it was still damn hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intlcutlass Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 joey b wrote: How long do you think it would have to sit first? Until the plenum is cold to the touch, so like 3-5 hours after driving it Yep..... I went to change mine not too lond ago, and I had let it sit in the drive for 2 hrs.... I still burned myself. shit, I put a fan on my engine for like 2 hours and it was still damn hot. No doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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