base93lumina Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 So i found a guy thats moving out of state and doesnt want to take this TGP with him. Original AZ car, never left the state. 100% all there, no rust, anywhere. Hes been trying to sell it for over 2 months now and no one has shown any interest in it. Heres the skinny: Currently runs, but poorly. Everything electronic under the hood, minus the PM3, is new. Coils, ICM, plugs, wires, all sensors, O2, EGR, all of it, new. New fuel pump, regulator, and filter. Runs, but stalls upon giving any throttle, acts like its misfiring. Unplug the IAT and it smooths out some. Fuel pressure is at 25psi, no higher. Thinkin the new pump or reg is bad. Has receipts for all parts, still has boxes too. Over $1200 in parts installed. Hes sacrificing the car for $600. Needs tires, headliner, power steering pump, EGR tube, a good detail and the clear redone on all exterior plastic parts that face up. Its gonna need to be trailered where ever it goes. So, what should i do...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Powered Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 buy it and pour everything you got in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke94vert Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Buy it. If it was closer to me I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Put a bosch pump in it from advanced auto parts. (they are actually very good and have a lifetime warranty!) That's probably what keeping it dead. next up would very likely be a bad crossover leaking to cause additional run-ability issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Buy it! 600 is pretty cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Buy her up!! That's a great price for a rust free TGP. If it needs a crossover pipe, I rebuild them. http://www.w-body.com/showthread.php/43001-Rebuilt-Turbo-Grand-Prix-exhaust-crossover-%28x-over%29-pipes-300-with-core-return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base93lumina Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Im actually really tempted to buy the car, take the motor and trans, and throw them into my Lumina. Shes in WAY better shape, and doesnt need much. Always wanted a turbo Lumina Then of course, sell the chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted To Boost Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 ^FAIL. Buy TGP and fix it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base93lumina Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 It needs alot of work. Hell, to me, the $600 and gettin up here is worth the drivetrain, and then sell the body off. Be cheaper for me to transplant the guts, than it would be to fix what the car needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base93lumina Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 On that note, could i drop the drivetrain into my Lumina and just swap the chip over from the 90 computer and have it run okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Put the lumina drivetrain into the TGP and profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base93lumina Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 So your saying swap the two drivetrains and sell the TGP as just an NA GP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 I guess, if you don't want to fix the GP. At least you could sell a driving car. Unless the power train in the lumina is no good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern8tion9l Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 It sounds like a good buy. Pics are a must Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base93lumina Posted October 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 The drive train in the Lumina is perfect. However, i would like to keep that car running, so im thinkin, rather then deal with a resto job and worry what will happen when that PM3 dies, i'll just take what i want and go from there. Dont have any pics, it was dark when i went to go look at the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern8tion9l Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 My cutlass was in 100% perfect running condition. I took the motor out and did a tgp transplant and it was never the same. I'm not saying don't do it, but if you start serious mods like this, maintaining daiy driver status is quite difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base93lumina Posted October 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 What all is involved in the swap? Can i just do the motor and change the chip in the computer? Or does it have to be rewired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern8tion9l Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) you can just change the chip in the ecm. the rewiring is minimail; it's been a while, but i know at least you have to repin the ecm for the manifold temp instead of the intake temp, and add the wastegate solenoid if you intend to use it. i omitted that and used a manual boost controller Edited November 1, 2012 by intern8tion9l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern8tion9l Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 oh and i used a manual trans, so i can't say anything about the tranny swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Are you on crack? Molesting a rust free TGP..... For shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base93lumina Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Rust free yes, perfect, not by any stretch of the imagination. That body would make a great one for someone back east that has a rotted out one. Not one spec of rust. And out here, we dont value rust free cars like everyone west of New Mexico. They are so common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Well, shoot. I need to live in Central AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake91 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 i vote buy tgp, swap drivetrain to lumina, put lumina drivetrain in tgp, and then sell tgp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatTheFehl Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I vote buy TGP and fix TGP and leave it a TGP... Seriously. Base Luminas are a dime a dozen. Turbo Grand Prixs are pretty damn rare. I hate hate HATE when people deliberately destroy a rare car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Powered Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I had to put down a few. I really hated to do it but I can say I got one hell of a lot of parts that way. and they live on in my other cars. its not like I was just scrapping them for the money alone, parts cars can be priceless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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