Thabulldog Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 u called it NOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmatic Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 woudl this work and what does it do for the intake http://www.stylinconcepts.com/parts.cfm/partfamilyid/1160/SubCategoryID/111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutsup1996 Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 hey Hyeboy, if i remember correctly races are not won sitting still so whats the big diff. on sucking hot air while sitting still. Any intake will do that cause air is not passing over and through the motor dissipating heat. also my manual control fan switch helps this problem. if the air is warm coming in it is still better to get more than a stock restrictive intake. plus the design of a cone flows air faster than a flat filter and causes less turbulence because it is round like the intake pipe, unlike the flat stock box. my point, any car on the planet is sucking hot air while sitting still so who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99RegalGS Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 woudl this work and what does it do for the intake http://www.stylinconcepts.com/parts.cfm/partfamilyid/1160/SubCategoryID/111 When the liquid CO2 turns into a gas it gets very cold. But CO2 doesn't burn. So I don't know why you would be putting it in your intake unless the power gained by the temp. change is greater than the power lost by the CO2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyman87 Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 woudl this work and what does it do for the intake http://www.stylinconcepts.com/parts.cfm/partfamilyid/1160/SubCategoryID/111 When the liquid CO2 turns into a gas it gets very cold. But CO2 doesn't burn. So I don't know why you would be putting it in your intake unless the power gained by the temp. change is greater than the power lost by the CO2. well i believe they dont shoot the C02 into the intake itself but a screen much like coolant flows threw the radiator. i have had this idea but using c02 cartrages for a air rifle. its an efficent way to cool your motor and intake but there is a point when its pointless b/c the motor wont read -100degrees F etc. Horsepower gains will vary! and you could be at risk of cracking some metal parts with LARGE variations of temp differences. IMO you wont see more then 5-10Theretical HP without high performance Sensors to read the extream levels this system would produce or even with the sensores. I could see a computer "Heart Attack" with this setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RareGMFan Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 hey Hyeboy, if i remember correctly races are not won sitting still so whats the big diff. on sucking hot air while sitting still. Any intake will do that cause air is not passing over and through the motor dissipating heat. also my manual control fan switch helps this problem. if the air is warm coming in it is still better to get more than a stock restrictive intake. plus the design of a cone flows air faster than a flat filter and causes less turbulence because it is round like the intake pipe, unlike the flat stock box. my point, any car on the planet is sucking hot air while sitting still so who cares The difference is simple. Of course any car gets hot sitting still, but the vast majority of cars have their factory air in-takes set up to get their air AWAY from the motor where the heat is being built up (i.e. behind a headlight or out the side fender like my TGP was). When you simply put a cone filter up to your stock air in-take hose, or in my case the turbo, you are leaving a wide open filter out to suck in the air directly in the engine bay. Just a slight difference there. The trade off is that at higher or even at cruising speeds, when the cooler air is getting circulated under the hood, you get much more of that cooler air into your engine leading to better throttle response. You don't really gain much HP, if any, no matter HOW you're set up. As for races being won sitting still, I hope you're not suggesting that once you get moving, all the heat being built up under your hood will instantly disapaite in a matter of seconds, which is how quick the race will be over. And the fan only comes on for the purpose of lowering your temperature enough to keep your car from overheating, not to mimick cruising temperatures. So my point with all this was, if you're stuck in traffic or caught a couple red lights in a row and you're running a cone filter, you are at a disadvantage which could make a significant impact on a race. I can feel a SEVERE difference in the take-off of my turbo after being stuck in extremely slow moving traffic for a while. This difference was no where near as dramatic or evident before the K&N cone filter was added. After cruising a while again, it feels much more responsive and snaps to attention quicker upon tapping the accelerator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutsup1996 Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 ok, i honestly have to say i still do not agree with you but i see your points and respect you, two fans running while stopped does keep cooler air coming in my motor and keeps my motor cooler so it can't put off hotter air than it could stock for it to suck back up, and i can sit for a long time and get quite warm and floor it only getting to like 45mph and then maybe coming to another light and the temp drops quite a bit, true the motor isn't technically cooling that fast but the intake air is, obviously something is or the guage wouldn't drop that fast, and thats after flooring it from a dead stop, putting a strain on the motor and theoritically producing more heat, but anyways just my thoughts and opinions and again not trying to start something I respect all here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyman87 Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 hey Hyeboy, if i remember correctly races are not won sitting still so whats the big diff. on sucking hot air while sitting still. Any intake will do that cause air is not passing over and through the motor dissipating heat. also my manual control fan switch helps this problem. if the air is warm coming in it is still better to get more than a stock restrictive intake. plus the design of a cone flows air faster than a flat filter and causes less turbulence because it is round like the intake pipe, unlike the flat stock box. my point, any car on the planet is sucking hot air while sitting still so who cares The difference is simple. Of course any car gets hot sitting still, but the vast majority of cars have their factory air in-takes set up to get their air AWAY from the motor where the heat is being built up (i.e. behind a headlight or out the side fender like my TGP was). When you simply put a cone filter up to your stock air in-take hose, or in my case the turbo, you are leaving a wide open filter out to suck in the air directly in the engine bay. Just a slight difference there. The trade off is that at higher or even at cruising speeds, when the cooler air is getting circulated under the hood, you get much more of that cooler air into your engine leading to better throttle response. You don't really gain much HP, if any, no matter HOW you're set up. As for races being won sitting still, I hope you're not suggesting that once you get moving, all the heat being built up under your hood will instantly disapaite in a matter of seconds, which is how quick the race will be over. And the fan only comes on for the purpose of lowering your temperature enough to keep your car from overheating, not to mimick cruising temperatures. So my point with all this was, if you're stuck in traffic or caught a couple red lights in a row and you're running a cone filter, you are at a disadvantage which could make a significant impact on a race. I can feel a SEVERE difference in the take-off of my turbo after being stuck in extremely slow moving traffic for a while. This difference was no where near as dramatic or evident before the K&N cone filter was added. After cruising a while again, it feels much more responsive and snaps to attention quicker upon tapping the accelerator. you guys left out 1 more part about the cai myth. unless you have a tb bypass. (stock therm 190*)your 190*coolant is flowing threw the plum and also heating your cromed or other metal piping making it one larg heater line. 190* im sure after a long hard run. Either way your getting Hot air. Even after a TB bypass your motor is till producing heat and heat goes up. I motion to move the CAI to FAI (free Air Intake) Running a true ram air threw the hood would be the best way to get cooler air into the car. Or you can drill your therm and have <160* air lol (dumb). Yes the air will cool the intake down but its not very significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey b Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 you sit for a while fans kick on water in radiator cools...but doesn't move into engine very fast you kick the crap outta your car water pump spools water into engine like a motha temp guage drops (located on upper end of engine near t-stat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red89tgp Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 yeh when i did a K&N genII intake on mine(modified a lil' bit)mine you can hear the turbo spool up alot more...just like a jetfighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RareGMFan Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 yeh when i did a K&N genII intake on mine(modified a lil' bit)mine you can hear the turbo spool up alot more...just like a jetfighter Indeed! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red89tgp Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 yeh and it sounds even better when i'm goin 90mph or faster cause all you hear is the rumble of the engine and in suckin in of air...it kicks ass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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