Final Decision

[ricklovin93]

[RobertISaar]

........ no offense, but

 

[ricklovin93]

91 beretta gtz on left 93 lumina z34 on right

[94 olds vert]

I got that. But there's a frowny face on the Z34?

[RobertISaar]

figured that part out, it's the stuff underneath i can't read.

 

LOOKS like 0-60, 1/4 mile ETs, but i can't actually read it.

[ricklovin93]

Better?

[RobertISaar]

Q4 5 speed MPG is 23/33 according to the old rating system.

[ricklovin93]

yea i just realized i forgot that

[RobertISaar]

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorCompareSideBySidePopUp.jsp?column=1&id=7759

23/33

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorCompareSideBySidePopUp.jsp?column=1&id=7932

17/27

 

keep in mind the Q4 likes premium though, while the LQ1 doesn't NEED anything more than 87.

[ricklovin93]

what are the problem areas on a beretta?

[RobertISaar]

finding one that hasn't had the piss beaten out of it?

[ricklovin93]

what i mean is whats the achilles heel of a beretta any major rust areas, i cant find any info

[ScoobyDoo82]

Berettas like to rust in the door jambs and this usually goes through to the rockers. Also behind the taillights and trunk jamb. That and paper thin interior materials (they shred easily) I can't think of other problems with them.

[ScoobyDoo82]

Heres a pic of mine... right in front of the PS wheel was a MASSIVE rust hole among the others I listed above...

 

[94 olds vert]

Here take a look at this thread:

 

http://www.beretta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2429&p=40361

[ricklovin93]

Here take a look at this thread:

 

http://www.beretta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2429&p=40361

yuck that stuff looks scary

[ricklovin93]

i think i might stay with a W not sure though

[Andrew]

GTZ Q4 5-speeds are damn hard to come by. The Q4 likes to eat headgaskets, brakes suck, typical 20 year old car rot.

[ricklovin93]

i cant decide, this is too stressful

[RobertISaar]

brakes can be upgraded fairly easily... i know of a few berettas with F-body stuff on them.

 

not sure what to think of the headgaskets though. perhaps better parts exist now than what the factory put on?

 

also, there were at least GTZs close by me last time i checked craigslist, none of them over $2K either. but now they seem to be completely gone.

[ricklovin93]

Im sure a q4 is easier to work on than a lq1

[runt]

You are comparing 20 year old cars that are no longer in production. This seems like a silly thread.

 

 

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[ricklovin93]

You are comparing 20 year old cars that are no longer in production. This seems like a silly thread.

 

 

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then stay out of my thread if its "silly" we all drive 20 year old cars that are no longer in production, so are you trying to say this whole site is "silly"

[RobertISaar]

i think he's referring to you using factory fresh specs on cars that are most certainly not factory fresh anymore.

[ricklovin93]

well i dont have access to dyno sheets of stock engines with 100,000+ miles, so that is all i can use to compare them,