mchill07 Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) I was driving a friends 97 Cut Sup and noticed that the locks automatically unlock whe put into park which my 93' does not do. I was wondering is there was a part I could pull from a newer one and put into my 93' to have a the locks unlock automatically. Edited March 26, 2012 by mchill07 typeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 My 1994 unlocks when I take the key out of the ignition. I guess 1993s don't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 IIRC, that function is all part of the chime module. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schurkey Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 I was driving a friends 97 Cut Sup and noticed that the locks automaticallyunlock whe put into park which my 93' does not do. I was wondering is there was a part I could pull from a newer one and put into my 93' to have a the locks unlock automatically. I don't know about automatic UN-locking, but the whole deal can be easily bypassed so the thing won't auto-lock and trap you inside. http://hbassociates.us/automaticdoorlockfix.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 I don't think 1997s unlock until the car is shut off. As Robert said, it is part of the chime module and is not very difficult to install as I am using a full feature chime module from a 1995 Olds Cutlass in my 1991 Chevy S10 Blazer. The doors lock at 9MPH and unlock when I shut the truck off and even the turn signal chime is functional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitchin Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 My sister's old car has something funky where it would auto-lock the doors after you closed them... Which meant it was impossible NOT to lock your keys in the car if you were trying to let it warm up. I would advise against this for that reason alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 My sister's old car has something funky where it would auto-lock the doors after you closed them... Which meant it was impossible NOT to lock your keys in the car if you were trying to let it warm up. I would advise against this for that reason alone. my father in laws sister's 1G GP sedan did this exact thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 My Gp doesn't lock it's doors when put into drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Well yeah, auto locks didn't really come into play until 1993. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyDoo82 Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 So you can have auto-locking doors by literally just putting a new chime module in? I tried this with my 91 Cavalier but it just wouldnt work at all (chime and auto-lock wouldnt work) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penglii Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 I'm pretty sure auto-locking doors were invented by Satan himself. Auto-unlocking is an idea I could maybe get behind... but the auto-locking part is pure evil. Schurkey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 So you can have auto-locking doors by literally just putting a new chime module in? I tried this with my 91 Cavalier but it just wouldnt work at all (chime and auto-lock wouldnt work) You have to wire in the auto-locks...Didn't later Cavis have them? Chime module may have been bad though if the chime part didn't work. The key-in-ignition and headlights on were plug and play in my Blazer. I looked in my service manual, apparently 1997s did have unlock-in-park and to disable the auto-locks, you pull fuse #7 instead of having to go through disconnecting the module. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchill07 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 The car came with the ability to auto lock whenever the transmission is moved from park after the initial start-up. It wasn't until maybe 95' that they added the feature that the doors unlock automatically when shifted back into park. I want this for my 93' as you need to "remember" to unlock the doors manually which is very annoying. There has to be a part that could be swapped or some type of mod for this to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schurkey Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I'm pretty sure auto-locking doors were invented by Satan himself.Auto-unlocking is an idea I could maybe get behind... but the auto-locking part is pure evil. I couldn't have said it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 The car came with the ability to auto lock whenever the transmission is movedfrom park after the initial start-up. It wasn't until maybe 95' that they added the feature that the doors unlock automatically when shifted back into park. I want this for my 93' as you need to "remember" to unlock the doors manually which is very annoying. There has to be a part that could be swapped or some type of mod for this to work I'll have a look through my service manuals. I have a 1994 (unlocks at shut-off) and 1997 manuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutlass350 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 It depends on the car and year. For my 2000 Olds Intrigue, with a Tech2 (GM scanner), I can change the auto-lock and auto-unlock functions. I can also change the confirmation/non-confirmation (lights and/or horn) for many of the factory remote buttons. In fact, I did change all of the options to suit what *I* like. So, depending on the car/year, the dealer, or maybe a local shop, may be able to change a number of options. My guess is ~$100 for a dealer or shop to do that? FWIW, it's ~$1.1K for a "Chinese referb/what-ever" Tech2 scanner. NOTE: Those "Chinese-versions" can not be repaired. They often have replacement boards inside! NOTE#2: Again, any Tech2 scanner under ~$3K is very likely not an "official scanner/referb/used/etc" scanner. So, they may not last long. And, they are likely a very bad idea if they are used often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 The auto-lock and unlock is programable in my van without a Tech-2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutlass350 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) The auto-lock and unlock is programmable in my van without a Tech-2... I think that the owners manual for my Olds may have some method for programming the auto-lock feature by using the key, lock buttons, swinging a dead rubber chicken around your head while saying some magical chant, etc. I needed/wanted a Tech2 because I did an engine R&R in my Intrigue. So, I needed to do a CPS re-cal. I also changed the rack. So, I needed to do a steering wheel position sensor re-cal (my Intrigue has the stability control option). Plus, it's proved to be very useful in finding/verifying a brand-new knock sensor that didn't work - ******* *******!!! Also, a bad vacuum leak because of the brake booster that went bad during the time of the engine R&R (many months - no rush ). And, the fuel pressure regulator just went. Arggg! So, I was able to do a fuel trim reset with the Tech2, and see the long term trim value go from zero to -35% over and over. I shut off the car, went to get my fuel pressure gauge, and the fuel pressure regulator "got better". From looking at youtube videos, I guess when the fuel pressure regulator is going, it's not uncommon when the fuel pressure regulator to go from good-> bad -> good -> bad, etc. After all of the money I just dumped into my Intrigue, I'm planning on keeping it another ~10 years (brand new factory engine, brand new factory tranny 2 years old, all new hubs, brake lines, MC, brakes, calipers, rotors, rack, alternator, steering pump, AC compressor, etc). So, I figured it made sense to get the Tech2 and not spend the ~$?200? for the garage to a a CPS re-cal, and then to have to pay for the steering wheel sensor re-cal during the alignment. Plus, I now have a new toy! Actually, that's the best reason. It's still cheaper than getting a new car - especially when you consider the insurance (I live in a large New England City - $$$ insurance rates!). Plus, I'm looking to get a plug-in hybrid for my next new car. Edited March 27, 2012 by Cutlass350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brake Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 mine flails wildly so i pulled the fuse. i wish it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyDoo82 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 You have to wire in the auto-locks...Didn't later Cavis have them? Chime module may have been bad though if the chime part didn't work. The key-in-ignition and headlights on were plug and play in my Blazer. I looked in my service manual, apparently 1997s did have unlock-in-park and to disable the auto-locks, you pull fuse #7 instead of having to go through disconnecting the module. I was just referring to my Grand Prix, I'd like to have the auto locks in that if I could. Is it just as simple as replacing the module or is there more involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Oh! Shows how much I know anymore. Anyway, you can plug the module in but you will need to do some basic wiring. I will try to get the pinouts tomorrow when I get the manuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyDoo82 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Sounds good, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchill07 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Does anyone know exactly what part controls the auto lock/unlock feature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchill07 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Got the manual out and have narrowed it down between the chime module and the trans. shift indicator..... So i'll go and pull one from a 95' or newer and see if that works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 To install the newer chime module with full features, the pinouts are as follows 1994-97 are same or so says the FSM - Module itself is plug and play in most GMs: A: PURPLE: to turn singal flasher (optional) B: DARK GREEN: to VSS speedometer input C: LIGHT BLUE: to PDL relay LOCK D: ORANGE/BLACK: to transaxle range switch, leave unhooked as doors will them lock at 9-10MPH instead of when put in gear E: BLACK: To PDL relay UNLOCK F: Not used Pic of module, usually located on passenger side up under the dash - on Oldsmobiles anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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