AMP Posted December 22, 2011 Report Posted December 22, 2011 well i thought it was just a tentionor making noise then last night it got worse and i have removed the belt for the SC, the tentionor was bad but it is still making a noise, here are a couple of videos. Quote
95 vert Posted December 22, 2011 Report Posted December 22, 2011 Sounds like you popped a connecting rod/piston Quote
AMP Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Posted December 22, 2011 is that an easy fix? it does not sound like it tho Quote
2001goldGTP Posted December 22, 2011 Report Posted December 22, 2011 definitely need to take it apart, and see if you can find it in the valve train first Quote
AL Posted December 22, 2011 Report Posted December 22, 2011 Pull the SES code asap and report back Quote
AMP Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Posted December 22, 2011 Pull the SES code asap and report back Will try, my dad is pretty sure it is a the timing chain slapping. Quote
2001goldGTP Posted December 22, 2011 Report Posted December 22, 2011 just dont start hte car anymore, if there is any hope it goes away quickly with every rpm Quote
Euro Posted December 22, 2011 Report Posted December 22, 2011 Will try, my dad is pretty sure it is a the timing chain slapping. Â I highly doubt it. It sounds like a spun bearing or maaaybe a cracked flex plate. My GP sounded very similar when it shat a rod bearing. Quote
xtremerevolution Posted December 22, 2011 Report Posted December 22, 2011 I've never seen a broken timing chain on a 3800. Drain the oil. If its full of metal shavings or looks like glitter, start looking for a new engine. Quote
AMP Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Posted December 22, 2011 I've never seen a broken timing chain on a 3800. Drain the oil. If its full of metal shavings or looks like glitter, start looking for a new engine. well if that is the case i not going to worry about it couse the body of the car is not that great i got it thinking i could do so body work and it would be a nice car. I am just going to fix my 98 lumina and drive it for now and fix the GTP this spring. Quote
GP1138 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Posted December 23, 2011 Yikes, yeah that sounds like a bad rod bearing. Quote
AMP Posted December 27, 2011 Author Report Posted December 27, 2011 well tore it a parts some today the harmonic balancer is bad the rubber piece is not even connected at all and it was slipping and we bleave that was what was making the ticking noise cause the metal in there was hitting. not sure getting balancer tomorrow, will report if it fixes it. Quote
94 olds vert Posted December 27, 2011 Report Posted December 27, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGaPClUpRd4&feature=g-vrec&context=G22b73d8RVAAAAAAAAAQ Quote
AMP Posted December 28, 2011 Author Report Posted December 28, 2011 well harmonic balancer did the trick no ticking, but the car is now out of time and i took it to autozone had it scanned and it came up as egr valve and termestat. weird thing is it is not getting hot. Quote
AMP Posted December 28, 2011 Author Report Posted December 28, 2011 Did you do the balancer yourself? yes just removed the belt then the bolt swapped the balancers and the torque the bolt to specs. Quote
AL Posted December 28, 2011 Report Posted December 28, 2011 There is a timing mark on the balancer that needs to be lined up if I remember correctly Quote
AMP Posted December 28, 2011 Author Report Posted December 28, 2011 yeah I think i know what your talking about and it was put on correctly but i think it did it before when the center of the old one moved and not the outer. Quote
BXX Posted December 28, 2011 Report Posted December 28, 2011 Sounds like you need to do a CASE learn, or you buggered up the crank sensor or the toner ring. Possible that the crank sensor bracket has cracked, causing the sensor to read wrong. Â Â However an EGR issue will make the car not run right, so you might think the 'timing' is off. Â Thermostat sticking open, it won't warm up and will continue to stay cold and run rich. Quote
AMP Posted December 28, 2011 Author Report Posted December 28, 2011 Sounds like you need to do a CASE learn, or you buggered up the crank sensor or the toner ring. Possible that the crank sensor bracket has cracked, causing the sensor to read wrong.  However an EGR issue will make the car not run right, so you might think the 'timing' is off.  Thermostat sticking open, it won't warm up and will continue to stay cold and run rich.  yeah I will get that fix then see if it fixes it will post back. Quote
AMP Posted December 29, 2011 Author Report Posted December 29, 2011 now car starts runs a few seconds and dies, and my security light is on. Quote
Euro Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 How smoothly does it start, does it seem to start normal and then just die? Or does it struggle to start Quote
AMP Posted December 30, 2011 Author Report Posted December 30, 2011 How smoothly does it start, does it seem to start normal and then just die? Or does it struggle to start it has always started easy no problem with that, i can have my foot on the gas and it will still just die. Quote
AMP Posted December 31, 2011 Author Report Posted December 31, 2011 Thats a security issue then that is what i was thinking, do you have any idea how to fix it. Quote
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