topless94style Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 So i got the bad o ring oil leak. I took my car on a trip this weekend drove a total of 150?? miles. Now when i got back it blows blue smoke everytime i start it. When it runs you can barely see the blue if any at all when it is warmed up. I put in 3 quarts of oil during the whole trip think i put in too much? I should probably check that. Also, could i just have a bad seal some place now? This sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topless94style Posted October 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 I checked the oil. Yea its a little way past full. Do i have to drain the whole oil pan to fix this? Will it cause huge problems if i just let it leak out and burn some? Before i left for the trip it needed a quart. When i got to my destination it needed a quart. When i didnt check the level so i added a quart and now its too full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musthavemuzk Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 gotta remember to check the oil level after the car has sit for a little bit. so the oil in the top of the engine has had time to drain to the pan. i learned this the hard way in an old vehicle i had. Monty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topless94style Posted October 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 yea ive learned my lesson im gonna go buy one of them pumps to suck some of the oil out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokesGTP Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Theres no way the O-ring can leak 3 quarts in 150 miles. Mine leaks terrible and it leaves about a 5x5 Spot of oil everytime I turn the car off, highly annoying but oil is cheap. It only leaks right after you turn off the car for a few minutes. That blue smoke though is definetly not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topless94style Posted October 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 lol yea i kinda thought about that and figured i added a bit too much oil. STUPID STUPID STUPID im hitting my self right now. Oh well its gravy im gettin it taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokesGTP Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 How many miles are on your convert just out of curiosity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topless94style Posted October 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 just rolled over to 90K. somewhere around 90130 to be more exact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokesGTP Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 Oh I was wondering if maybe really high mileage would cause blue smoke. I used some high mileage oil in my 94' Bonne that used to do the same thing on startup and it disappeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topless94style Posted October 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 how hard is it to get to the oring? i want this beast fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomFE3 Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 you have to take off the throttle body and some fuel lines and the airhose and everything, its a bitch to get at really but when your done with it you feel glad you got it over with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 the o-ring is not causing your blue smoke out the exhaust...I would check the PCV valve for proper operation, if your PCV system is clogged, you will have excess crankcase pressure that will cause oil to be pushed by seals and possibly some out the exhaust...if your pcv valve doesn't rattle, then replace it 8) Good luck fixing the problem(s)..my o-ring on my 3.1 is leaking although I replaced it two months ago when I put the spare motor in the 93..it's probably going to be dealt with mid-week this week...I must have pinched the damn o-ring when installing it :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topless94style Posted October 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 the dealer said it takes 10.1hrs or something to replace. But one brian89gps site, he pointed it out and it looked like it was right underneath the lower intake. How would this take 10.1 hrs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 the dealer said it takes 10.1hrs or something to replace. But one brian89gps site, he pointed it out and it looked like it was right underneath the lower intake. How would this take 10.1 hrs? Cuz you have to pull the rear head to do it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyman87 Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 Usually when you see blue/green smoke coming from the exasust it means head gasket. Atleast thats what i have heard. Please someone correct me on this. Im only half sure about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 Blue smoke means oil is burning. If a head gasket goes, you usually see A LOT of white steam, since the coolant is leaking into the cylinders or out of the block. Typical oil leaks are the oil pump drive O-ring, and the lower intake gasket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musthavemuzk Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Blue smoke means oil is burning. If a head gasket goes, you usually see A LOT of white steam, since the coolant is leaking into the cylinders or out of the block. Typical oil leaks are the oil pump drive O-ring, and the lower intake gasket hmmm i had an oil leak that i thought nothing about as it was really small. after my project it is a whole lot less but still there. next step is the oil pump drive o-ring. so what the man says is true. Monty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPRACER Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Blue smoke usually means an internal engine problem. Such as a stuck oil ring and/or excess blowby. Typically you see increased oil consumption. Try a simple compression check. Do a dry test without adding oil to the cylinders, record your compression. Then do a wet test, add about a tablespoon of oil, if compression increases significantly, you may have worn or stuck rings. Not a hard test, the tool is relatively cheap and if you can pull a spark plug you can do it. Just for the record, as Robby mentioned, if you were burning coolant,(head gasket) you would see quite a bit of white smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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