Bostons94Vert Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'm finally getting around to the wonderful job of replacing the gaskets for my Cutlass and was wondering if there was any tips or anything I should know before the tear down...any help is greatly appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman093 Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 Intake and exhaust pushrods are different lengths. Make sure they go back in the right spots or bad things happen. Don't forget to clip the wire (I think it might go to the o2 sensor) on the left rear side of engine by the coolant pipe back onto its bracket or burns through on the exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostons94Vert Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) I read about the pushrods thank you for the advice and the info on the wiring...I've done a lot of reading and have decent skills with cars in general but this job scares me a little Edited July 29, 2011 by Bostons94Vert misspell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) use the premium metal intake gasket set or don't do the job at all. the cheaper gaskets fail even worse than the original. from rockauto.com FEL-PRO Part # MS98004T PermaDryPlus®; 2 intake manifold gaskets, 1 egr tube gasket, 1 egr valve gasket, 1 thermostat seal, 2 valve covers, 1 egr tube gasket, 1 thermostat bypass oring, 2 intake manifold upper gaskets, 1 tube RTV 2nd Design; w/Roller rocker arms; w/Push rod guides on int. gskt.; Valve cover gskts. & Upper set incl.; PermaDryPlus® int. manifold gskts. incl.; Manifold bolts not incl.; Manifold bolt replacement recommended 1st Design; w/Ball & Pivot rocker arms; w/o Push rod guides on int. gskt.; Valve cover gskts. & Upper set incl.; PermaDryPlus® int. manifold gskts. incl.; Manifold bolts not incl.; Manifold bolt replacement recommended $62.79Add to Cart you can simply clean the intake bolt threads and re-use... BUT you really need to loctite them down as they have a propensity to become loose. You'll need a fuel line diconnect tool ALSO... if you touch the fuel injectors, you should install new O-rings. actually, you should do them regardless. Refer to the PART NUMBER thread stickied in GENERAL for more info. Other things you should do with intake off: OIL DRIVE - get a new silicone O-rings and a paper distributor gasket as a back up. on inspect/clean cam sensor - clean it's top with brake cleaner. Once clean you will probably see the insulation backing off. If the wires aren't frayed but you can see them, you can fix with silicone RTV. Make an RTV dome over the top of the sensor to displace oil and seal oil away from the wires. Edited July 29, 2011 by Crazy K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostons94Vert Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 I did get the FEL-PRO set from rockauto like u pictured...I went a lil over and ordered a new water pump...t-stat...pcv valve...6 new ac DELCO rapidfire plugs...fuel filter...radiator hoses and new manifold bolts...its overkill but it was all less than 200 bucks so I figured why not...I noticed that the GASKET set includes the oil pump drive seal is that the o ring you mentioned? How many o rings do the injectors need? I know its either 2 or 3 a piece I'm just not sure how many to get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostons94Vert Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 i dont see the part number from the thread on any site but i did find a fel-pro set (Part No. ES 70599) and a BDW set (Part No. 27478) im not sure which set would be the better choice. I dont mean to ask a million questions i just want to make sure this gets done right the first time. I found this oil pump seal from dorman(http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Dorman-Oil-Pump-Seal/1994-Oldsmobile-Cutlass-Supreme/_/N-j1579Z8zo4x?counter=0&itemIdentifier=347153_0_2826_) is this the correct o ring set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 Injector O-rings: You need 12 injectors rings for top and bottom, and a rubber friendly lubricant to install. (i prefer dielectric silicone grease) I've bought mine at Advance auto parts: http://www.w-body.com/showthread.php/41280-The-Parts-Number-Thread!!?p=870723&viewfull=1#post870723 OIL DRIVE: I can't answer if the autozone ring is correct, but I see black rubber and brown silicone rubber rings out there, I always use the silicone rings. here's an LQ1 oil drive repair, you need the same gaskets, but you don't need to hack it out: http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c214/Crazy_Ken/LQ1%20oil%20drive%20fix/ I forgot to add: you should ohm test all your injectors, they should be near 12ohms, if you have any out of spec they should be replaced at this time. during assembly it is a good idea to do an injector trickle down test: install injectors onto rail with new O-rings, hook up fuel lines(if applicable) do not install into intake. place rags or towels under fuel rail and operate the fuel pump with the test lead for ten seconds. (you may need to prime and evacuate air from the fuel rail first via the schrader valve on it) if good install into intake and connect everything up. repeat fuel pump test to observe that the o-rings are seated and not leaking. I did an 01 3100 with stock GM dealer black rubber o-rings and the POSs all leaked during the verification test, hence why i use the silicone ones above. and in case you don't know the fuel pump can be operated with it's test lead, a small red wire hanging near the battery/aux post area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostons94Vert Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 I got some FEL-PRO injectors gaskets...they came in packs of 4 so I got three...I appreciate the info on the injectors and fuel pump test...do you think any serious damage could have occurred because of the lim or should it be fine after replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjOlds Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 Finally I now know what that darn red lead is for. I couldn't figure it out and assume the engine rebuilder had forgotten to hook something up. I was going to ask them when I took the car back down, but now I know. Of course the car is running fine so I could not understand what in the world it could be for. Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Don't forget to clip the wire (I think it might go to the o2 sensor) on the left rear side of engine by the coolant pipe back onto its bracket Its the crank sensor to the ICM wires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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