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desperate... 3100 engine confusion


blueshadow39

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Daughters boyfriend has 98 grand prix v6 engine went out. "mechanic" ( and i use that term loosely at this point) said go to pull-a-part get 3100 engine out of 98 grand prix with letter 'M' in VIN number. Husband did this. Even says 3100 on intake. 3 weeks later... "mechanic" says he pulled wrong engine. Says the engine in the car has aluminum heads and the one my husband pulled does not. Are there 2 different 3.1 or 3100 engines or what the heck is going on here? Desperate for help. Thanks

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The 98 grand prix should have the 3100, all 3100's have aluminum heads.

 

Said mechanic does not know what the hell he is talking about. As long as the 3100 is out of a 96 or newer car there should no problems swapping it in. :thumbsup:

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We didn't know if there were two different engines... one with aluminum & one without or whats goin on. My husband said same thing you just did. This guys saying the water pump isn't even in the same spot and because this 'new' engine doesn't have aluminum heads that nothing will line up. Is it possible that the grand prix we pulled the engine from maybe didn't have the original motor in it? It says 3100 on intake but is this still a possibility? I apologize for my lack of engine knowledge but so very much appreciate your help!

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If it has "3100 SFI V6" cast into the intake manifold, it is a VIN M, aluminum head V6 engine. period.

 

Here's what it should look like basically:

http://carad.ebayimg.com/i19/03/a/000/77/b4/ef32_4.JPG

 

The 3800 V6 would look like this:

http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/47349424.jpg

 

I believe the 3800 has iron heads.

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sounds like you have a 3800 motor. the only answer is pictures....

this is whats in the car 3.1L V6 FI OHV..mechanic says it has aluminum heads

used engine we pulled came out of 98 grand prix says 3100 on engine.. mechanic says it does not have aluminum heads

can't get pictures mechanic has it in his shop.

trying to figure out if he is an idiot or not before we go over there because we want to make sure we know what we're talking about so we don't look like idiots too. :)

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there were two different 3100s made, small port and large port, both had aluminum heads, main difference between them was the upper and lower intakes were slightly different.

 

98 grand prixs had the OPTION of a 3800, which would have iron heads, however they look nothing like the 3100s.

 

"mechanic" sounds like a dumbass.

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The 98 grand prix should have the 3100, all 3100's have aluminum heads.

 

Said mechanic does not know what the hell he is talking about. As long as the 3100 is out of a 96 or newer car there should no problems swapping it in. :thumbsup:

 

i guess this mainly answers our question. we were tying to determine if there were two different types of this engine. one with aluminum heads and one with iron heads. thanks guys!

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i guess this mainly answers our question. we were tying to determine if there were two different types of this engine. one with aluminum heads and one with iron heads. thanks guys!
Your most welcome. I hope everything works out and you guys are able to get it back on the road soon. :)
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