urbex Posted June 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 And somehow the front rotors will cost $28 to ship when it cost $12 for 2 rotors, brake pads, and an air filter the first time...? Looks like Auto Zone Valuecraft it is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbex Posted June 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Yeah, I'm thinking it was about time for new rotors.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 And somehow the front rotors will cost $28 to ship when it cost $12 for 2 rotors, brake pads, and an air filter the first time...? Looks like Auto Zone Valuecraft it is.... front rotors are MUCH heavier than rears. RA always has cheap rears, but shipping kills the idea of buying fronts from them unless they do a clearout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbex Posted June 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 front rotors are MUCH heavier than rears. RA always has cheap rears, but shipping kills the idea of buying fronts from them unless they do a clearout. Yeah there's no way I'm buying fronts from them. Just for the 2 rotors it'd be $80, which is what I paid for everything the first time around At least I got decent pads (ceramics) so I'll just throw those on the Valuecraft and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schurkey Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I got decent pads (ceramics) so I'll just throw those on the Valuecraft and see what happens. If it's the same as what happened to me, you'll be disappointed in the stopping power of the ceramic pads. 'Course, that was years ago, and on a different vehicle. I'll buy plain ol' semi-metallics any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Yeah, I'm thinking it was about time for new rotors.... Looks like you need more than just new rotors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 If it's the same as what happened to me, you'll be disappointed in the stopping power of the ceramic pads. 'Course, that was years ago, and on a different vehicle. I'll buy plain ol' semi-metallics any time. Depends on the pad. A cheap semi metallic will outperform a cheap ceramic, but a high performance ceramic will outperform a cheap semi metallic. I can still stop on a dime in the Regal with ceramics front and rear. The only reason I use them is because I'm just way too incredibly sick of having to clean the dust off my wheels with semi-metallic pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec_b Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Depends on the pad. A cheap semi metallic will outperform a cheap ceramic, but a high performance ceramic will outperform a cheap semi metallic. I can still stop on a dime in the Regal with ceramics front and rear. The only reason I use them is because I'm just way too incredibly sick of having to clean the dust off my wheels with semi-metallic pads. Again remember it depends a lot on the driver. Urbex has said several times that he's light on his brakes. If you drive like a normal person day in and day out, I dare you to drive two identical cars back to back and tell me which one has ceramics installed. It really comes down to how annoying the wheels are to clean. For a basic lazily driven DD, stopping power is greatly outweighed by dusting and noise, and that's what most consumers are going to look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbex Posted June 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Again remember it depends a lot on the driver. Urbex has said several times that he's light on his brakes. If you drive like a normal person day in and day out, I dare you to drive two identical cars back to back and tell me which one has ceramics installed. It really comes down to how annoying the wheels are to clean. For a basic lazily driven DD, stopping power is greatly outweighed by dusting and noise, and that's what most consumers are going to look for. Exactly. I'm not racing the car by any means:lol: I can probably count on one hand how many times I've stomped on the brakes to avoid an accident. The last pads I had were ridiculous for brake dust especially for having hubcaps that you would think would have caught it all. Being a white car where it shows up more, I'm welcoming to the fact that it may stay cleaner! Plus it's a pain in the ass to clean in the edges of the hubcaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 chicago had me doing quite a few brakestands due to the damn redlight cameras.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Again remember it depends a lot on the driver. Urbex has said several times that he's light on his brakes. If you drive like a normal person day in and day out, I dare you to drive two identical cars back to back and tell me which one has ceramics installed. It really comes down to how annoying the wheels are to clean. For a basic lazily driven DD, stopping power is greatly outweighed by dusting and noise, and that's what most consumers are going to look for. If you like to keep a mile between yourself and the car in front of you, great, get as cheap a pad as you can, but if you live anywhere near the city like I do, or in an area were deer can cross the street and leave the front of your car in pieces, you learn to appreciate the braking power. That extra stopping power makes all the difference. 6 feet means the difference between you plowing into the car in front of you or coming to a full stop before you do. I have never rearended anyone, but I have been rear ended a few times. I attribute that to the braking power of all of my cars. Better their insurance rates go up than yours. $20 extra for a good set of pads once sure as hell beats $20 extra per month on your insurance rates. There's no argument that in emergency stopping situations, everyone wishes they had better brakes and wishes they had spent the extra few bucks to get something that stopped on a dime. Brake pads are the only part of my car I do not compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgethis Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 if it's a vehicle you're planning on keeping on the road for a while, then yes, expensive brakes can be completely justified. but if i know a vehicle isn't going to be on the road for another 10,000 miles at most, i'm going with the cheapest route i can outside of junkyard rotors/pads. I like my Wagner Thermo Quiets, I usually grab the wagner rotor and pad, and shoes if they need them, never had a problem with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carkhz316 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I like my Wagner Thermo Quiets, I usually grab the wagner rotor and pad, and shoes if they need them, never had a problem with them. ^This. I spend the money on vehicles that matter/ plan on keeping, such as wifey's car. My cars. on the other hand, best bang for the buck most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mra32 Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I just looked at my for sale thread...i cant beleive i forgot about my brake pads that I had for sale that would fit your car. cheap too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel87 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I may need to do a brake job on my Cutlass soon, I saw this thread and have been looking up some rotors. I see these 2 types on Summit. Would these fit and does anyone know if these are good/worth the money? This one doesn't specify Olds Cutlass as a fit, but google searching the product it says it fits... http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BHI-55018-020 Also this.. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EBC-GD7071/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel87 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 I was looking to getting some new rotors on mine soon, I think one is warped. There are some I found "Baer Holdings 55018020" they are slotted and cross drilled. Does anyone think this is worth the money? It is about 180 dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbex Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Honestly, I'd say no. It seems to me that virtually all rotors are made in the same factory most likely in China. They're all made in China. I had got two different brands, and both were in identical boxes and looked the same, other than the price. Neither had any markings on the rotors themselves to distinguish the two. Personally, and this is what I did, I'd just get the cheapest for what, $30? Then when they go bad again just get new ones. You won't be out much money. Even if under for some bizarre reason you needed to replace them every year it'd take 6 years for the cost of the cheap ones to be more than the name brand ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel87 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Very true. I mean I am not really worried about expenses, I mainly want them because they would look cool:) but if they are all made in the same old fine china, then it probably isn't worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbex Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Yeah, good luck finding any that aren't made in China. I think they all are. I could be wrong though, but I can guarantee you if they aren't they're expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel87 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Thanks man, I will have to do some more research as to where these are made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec_b Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 (edited) If you want drilled and slotted just go on ebay. I got front drilled/slotted rotors and ceramic pads for like 90 bucks shipped, maybe a bit less. Stopped just fine and never had an issue with noise or dusting. And that was with one sticky rear caliper that really didn't do anything at all. I think I got these ones: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Front-Drilled-Slotted-Brake-Rotors-and-4-Pads-Chevy-/220810916507?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1997|Model%3ACutlass+Supreme&hash=item33695b329b Edited July 16, 2011 by alec_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS009 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'm using rotors with lifetime warranties at all four corners. adv auto has them. get them and some pads from AZ with lifetime warranties and bam! lifetime brakes. the only thing you'll ever have to pay for is the hardware kits and maybe the occasional caliper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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