Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 So, lets say hypothetically one was going to change out the fuel filter on an older car, say perhaps a '91 grand prix sedan. The owner of said car would attempt to free the nuts on either side of the fuel filter. Said car was perhaps a little rusty, but not so much that the idea of changing the filter was completely unthinkable. Imagine that while trying to break the nuts loose, it torqued the line a little bit, and in doing so, said fuel line sprung a leak, to where fuel is now squirting out in a small but very steady stream. How would one go about fixing such a problem? One might think of cutting out the fuel line around the filter and putting some rubber line and hose clamps with a universal filter. Or alternately said fuel line could be patched and left as is otherwise, but potentially only being a temporary remedy. Thoughts on if this were to happen, what one should do? Keeping in mind this may be a car one drives daily and would need tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 would this hypothetical person have a flaring kit? preferably capable of doing double-flares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 nope! This person has lots of wrenches, some wd-40 (which would have possibly been sprayed a few minutes before to help loosen things up), and other normal tinkering tools such as a hammer, sockets, etc. Also, this person isn't too worried about looks or ghetto rigging anything, just so it works and can be driven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 does this person have a sufficient supply of JB Weld? if not: cut the line DIRECTLY on the leak, throw some high pressure rubber line that's ID is just BARELY bigger than than the OD(or even the same) of the fuel line, then slip half of rubber line over one side, half over the other side, clamp, clamp, clamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 hmmm, I may have to back said car down the driveway and drive the GTP up to autozone to get some hose (although I may have some if it's the right size), clamps, and a universal filter? Do they make such a guy? IIIIIIIII mean this person would maybe have to do something as such. (it looks like it's stopped for now, probably just exhausted the pressure from the pump) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 who said anything about new filter??? hypothetical picture/drawing of damaged area?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 its about an inch and a half before it hits the filter, just past the bend, but I think I'd have to cut back further to account for the bend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RobertISaar Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 ok..... you done goofed, son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 sounds like a plan! Would there be a problem completely bypassing the fuel filter and using HP hose? Reason I ask is because I thought there was some leaking at the outlet nuts, but I don't know if that was before or after I realized there was an actual hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 well, all of your filtering would then be done by the sock that's on the fuel pump, assuming it's still there and relatively clean. and the fact that inline fuel filters DO indeed plug indicate that the sock alone is not enough in most situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 well I kinda lied earlier, but I'm pretty sure it makes not difference. The hole is on the engine side, not the tank side. My other question is if they do make universal filters that I can put on in this method? Reason I ask is because I think my occasional stalling issues are related to my filter (hence me trying to change it and failing catastrophically) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 yes... i don't know if they're rated for 43.5PSI though. El Camino had two filters that attached via hose clamps right near the carb, but it didn't run anywhere near the pressure you'll be seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhildebrand Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Really ghetto way: Duct Tape. Sure the gas will dissolve the adhesive on the tape.. The previous owners of my sisters car didnt know that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 So I threw a piece of duct tape on as a temp fix to run up to the store, and yes, the outlet is also leaking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Anyone know the OD on the fuel line? I have a section of 3/8 high temp power steering return line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I do have JB weld, gonna make use of it. If I'm gonna cut and use hose it's not like this will change that. Might get me by for a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 If it is on the engine side just bounce to a jy and snag a replacement. Replacing that one should be a snap, and you could put the proper filter back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I hosed and clamped the one side and we're good (although I want to grab another pair of clamps), but the outlet side I'm not sure how to handle. I guess I could JB weld that since I'm not gonna be able to use this setup anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 If it is on the engine side just bounce to a jy and snag a replacement. Replacing that one should be a snap, and you could put the proper filter back on. Hmmm, cutting off a few inches before the filter? Decent idea, but I think the other side is also shot, I'm trying to see where that's leaking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 sooooo, it looks like the side that I put the hose on is just fine, but it's leaking on the outlet at the fitting. Actually, it looks like its coming out of the back of the fitting where the line goes in I think I'm gonna wait a few minutes to let the gas evaporate and then JB weld the heck out of that side. It still runs but leaks like a sieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 taking the GTP back up to autozone to get some more hose clamps, but I think I found a decent almost non ghetto way to do it. Either way, if it works, it'll be just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 copied from my posts in the whatever thread: There is another line right by the fuel line a few inches before the fuel filter, and it looks like its a braided line coming into a solid tube right there. What is this? I seem to have possibly developed a leak... I should have left the trusty beast alone! I ended up just putting a straight hose and bypassing the filter (for now), because I had a universal filter, and no start. Found out it was kinked, so I tried again, nothing, tried a third time, nothing, so I said screw it, I need to get to work tomorrow and the GTP doesn't like to stop very well. Now I'm leaking something else, still smells like gas (although everything does right now), but its a different tube, but only when the car is on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 is it the return line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 thats a good possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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