DIC into a 92 Cutlass International

[unclehotte]

Hello. After a lot of reading on w-body today I came to the idea that I CAN install

a DIC into my 92 Cutlass Int. (supposed to be just plug and play?) Does it have to be from

a cutlass??? I saw one on ebay for a 88-91 Olds Regency. Is that one good to go

for my car or does the year have to fit???

Thanks for any help.

[94 olds vert]

I know the DIS was used on several different cars. They all will look the same on the outside, but may have some internal differences and different color wires.

 

With a 1992 cutlass...You should be able to install it and just plug it in and everything should work.

 

I installed a DIS into my car that was from another cutlass.

 

 

Welcome to the forum! When you have a chance post up some pictures of your car. I'm a sucker for a 92 International.

[ManicMechanic]

DIS is not plug and play on a 1992, it will have to be wired in.

[virtuetovice]

Post a link if you could. If it's the same setup and connector as the Cutlass ones it should work.

[94 olds vert]

huh...but will it still function 100%?

 

They are very easy to wire in. I've done it.

 

Take a look at this link:

 

http://www.w-body.com/showthread.php/43927-Cutlass-DIS-installation-info

[unclehotte]

Hey 94 olds vert......After I see your pic I really want it now. I was happy to have the HUD in my cutlass. (Main reason I bought the car and got rid of my 88 Cutlass)

But next to the HUD control I only have the (standard) hole right now.

[ManicMechanic]

It will function fine.

[unclehotte]

Here is the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/88-91-Olds-Regency-Driver-Information-System-DIS-Gauges-/180650300006?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0f98d266

[ManicMechanic]

it will work but can be found much cheaper.

[unclehotte]

Much cheaper???? I like that idea. But were??? It took a long time for me to find this one.

[94 olds vert]

I would make a WTB thread in the for sale section of this forum. That is where I found mine and it was cheaper than the Ebay one.

[unclehotte]

Thats the one!

[94 olds vert]

I like that! That Cutlass looks to be in great shape.

[unclehotte]

[ManicMechanic]

I have one from an Olds 98 sitting in my truck...I don't think I'm going to use it.

[unclehotte]

I try my best to keep it going. Its up to 138000 miles now.

[Crazy K]

INSTRUCTIONS:

 

Oldsmobile Driver Information System:

 

*not responsible for errors during installation such as damaged DICs, car fires, house fires, total city fire, end of universe due to division by zero through the following of the info provided*

 

 

The Driver Information System is used on several Oldsmobile model lines. This includes A, G, H, L, N, and W-bodies of the 88-91 era.

All units are physically identical, but have some internal programming differences.

 

Wiring colors can vary greatly, so verify all wires by placement. This unit has a pigtail on the rear, and colors on the pigtail differ from colors within the vehicle wiring harness.

 

DIS C1=blue 8 cavity connector

connector pin# color(unit) color(vehicle) function

DIS-C1-A RED ORN constant hot, memory (+)

DIS-C1-B PNK/BLK PNK/BLK switched ignition feed, hot in run (+)

DIS-C1-C BRN BRN or GRN or YEL VF dimming input (+)

DIS-C1-D GRY GRY Illumination (adjustable backlighting)

DIS-C1-E BLK/WHT BLK/WHT ground (-)

DIS-C1-F* BLK/GRY not present ---

DIS-C1-G$ YEL not present or BLU E/M input

DIS-C1-H BLK BLK/wht(or BLK) ground

 

DIS C2=black 4 cavity connector

connector pin# color(unit) color(vehicle) function

DIS-C2-A ORN ORN SERIAL DATA INPUT

DIS-C2-B DK GRN DK GRN VSS/speedometer input

DIS-C2-C PNK PPL fuel level sender input

DIS-C2-D% BLK/GRN not used or BLK ground for e/m circuit(-)

 

* all vehicles examined omit connection to this wire, even though it is present on the unit pigtail

$ not necessary to be hooked up. most vehicles examined omit this wire.

% only hooked up on vehicles if equipped with an E/M input

 

 

and what they do:

DIS-C1-A Constant hot source, it is power for the DIS memory. Digital clusters would have this wire, but if your car does not have a digital cluster, the radio will have a constant hot wire for it's memory that would be a good power source.

DIS-C1-B Switched ignition feed, hot in run. it powers up the unit when you start the car. You can tie this to the cluster or radio. both have a hot in run wire.

DIS-C1-C Vacuum fluorescent dimming input. It controls the digital display intensity. you can tie this to a VF wire.

DIS-C1-D Button Illumination (adjustable backlighting)". You can hook these to the backlighting for the cluster or radio.

DIS-C1-E Ground.

DIS-C1-F Not used and not defined

DIS-C1-G English/Metric input, externally set by cluster or switch to set DIC unit mode, if wired.

DIS-C1-H Ground.

 

DIS-C2-A SERIAL DATA INPUT, which the DIC gets info from the ecm/pcm for calculations and display.

DIS-C2-B VSS signal input. this can be hooked to the cluster feed for the speedometer.

DIS-C2-C Fuel level gage input. this can be hooked to the cluster feed for the fuel gauge.

DIS-C2-D Ground, connected only if E/M input is present(without regard to mode)

 

1992 analog UB3 CS cluster

connector Pin# Wire color function

aUB3-C1 TAN/WHT brake indicator

aUB3-C2 WHT tachometer input

aUB3-C3 GRY illumination (adjustable backlighting) (+)

aUB3-C4 PPL fuel level sender input

aUB3-C5 DK GRN VSS speedometer input

aUB3-C6 YEL not used, VF display dim enable (+ to enable dimming)

aUB3-C7 BRN/WHT not used, VF dimmer input

aUB3-C8 ORN not used, ELEC FUSE circuit, constant hot, memory (+)

aUB3-C9 --- not used

aUB3-C10 BLK ground

aUB3-C11 --- not used

aUB3-C12 --- not used

aUB3-C13 PNK/BLK CLUSTER FUSE circuit, Hot in run (+)

aUB3-C14 --- not used

aUB3-C15 PNK/BLK INDICATOR FUSE circuit, hot in run, bulb test, and start (+)

aUB3-C16 DK GRN coolant temperature sensor input

 

connector Pin# Wire color function

aUB3-D1 --- not used

aUB3-D2 BRN Check Gauges output to HUD unit

aUB3-D3 TAN/BLK shift indicator (if equipped)

aUB3-D4 LT BLU left turn indicator (+)

aUB3-D5 LT GRN high beam indicator (+)

aUB3-D6 DK BLU right turn indicator (+)

aUB3-D7 BLK ground

aUB3-D8 YEL fasten seatbelt indicator

aUB3-D9 --- not used

aUB3-D10 --- not used

aUB3-D11 TAN oil pressure input

aUB3-D12 --- not used

aUB3-D13 LTGRN/BLK "Antilock" indicator

aUB3-D14 YEL/BLK "low coolant" level indicator

aUB3-D15 BRN charge indicator feed (sets check gauges indicator)

aUB3-D16 BRN/WHT "Service Engine Soon indicator

 

different pinouts existbetween 92-93 and 94 analog cluster, you cannot substitute a 92-93 cluster for a 94 without loosing these critical indicators.

 

 

 

Wire decoding, CS DIS to 92 CS analog cluster.

DIS connector C1=blue 8 cavity connector

connector pin# color(unit) color(vehicle) function

 

DIS-C1-A RED ORN constant hot, memory (+)

aUB3-C8 ORN not used, ELEC FUSE circuit, constant hot, memory (+)

or

Radio-C1-10 ORN constant hot, memory (+)

 

DIS-C1-B PNK/BLK PNK/BLK switched ignition feed, hot in run (+)

aUB3-C13 PNK/BLK CLUSTER FUSE circuit, Hot in run (+)

 

DIS-C1-C BRN BRN or GRN or YEL VF dimming input (+)

aUB3-C7 BRN/WHT not used, VF dimmer input

or

Radio-C1-7 BRN/WHT VF dimming input (+)

 

DIS-C1-D GRY GRY Illumination (adjustable??? backlighting)

aUB3-C3 GRY illumination (adjustable backlighting) (+)

 

DIS-C1-E BLK/WHT BLK/WHT ground (-)

ground to chassis or other ground

 

DIS-C1-F* BLK/GRY not present ---

*not used, do not connect

 

DIS-C1-G YEL not present or BLU E/M input

HUD LT BLU E/M wire

 

DIS-C1-H BLK BLK/wht(or BLK) ground

ground to chassis or other ground

 

 

DIS connector C2=black 4 cavity connector

connector pin# color(unit) color(vehicle) function

 

DIS-C2-A ORN ORN SERIAL DATA INPUT

aldl ORN ALDL data wire

 

DIS-C2-B DK GRN DK GRN VSS/speedometer input

aUB3-C5 DK GRN VSS speedometer input

 

DIS-C2-C PNK PPL fuel level sender input

aUB3-C4 PPL fuel level sender input

 

DIS-C2-D BLK/GRN not used(except if e/m equipped)BLK ground (-)

ground to chassis or other ground

Edited April 14, 2011 by Crazy K

[unclehotte]

Hmmm....this dont like like plug and play connection anymore. I am getting second thoughts on this job. I was hoping to install it and plug the two pigtails into a socket.

[94 olds vert]

It's really not all that difficult. I've done and it took me maybe 45-1 hours tops. It is a cool option to add to your car.

[LuminaPower92]

I thought the 3.4 needed a Shaun chip to work for the fuel economy?

[94 olds vert]

I thought the 3.4 needed a Shaun chip to work for the fuel economy?

 

Yes, they do. But all the other functions will still work properly. He has a 92 with OBDI so his fuel economy stuff with work. 1994s will not work unless they have a chip.

[unclehotte]

I am glad to hear that. The main reason I want the DIC is for the average mileage.

[unclehotte]

A quick (unrelated) question: On the Electronic Climate Control the temperatures are shown in Fahrenheit.

Is there a button combination or so that i can change it to Celsius???

[94 olds vert]

A quick (unrelated) question: On the Electronic Climate Control the temperatures are shown in Fahrenheit.

Is there a button combination or so that i can change it to Celsius???

 

I don't think so. Does your car have an e/m switch in front of the shifter?

[unclehotte]

Yes it does. And it does change HUD from miles to Kilometers.