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Where can I pick up front and rear STBs for my car? Do the 97+ ones fit? GMPartsDirect and the like only have listings for newer models.

 

Also, do any of the goodies from the GXP or Comp-G third-gens work with my sedan?

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RSTB = AWEB Bar

FSTB = Cutlass Convertible STB

 

The GMPP ones will work for front only but must be adapted.

Posted

Ya but is aweb still making the rstb? also depending on where you live, the vert stb may be hard to find. I know it is for me.

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I could never find a Vert either, so an almost stock solution was out for me too. For an FSTB I bought the 97+ bar and mounted it to my strut mount plates (someones recommendation, I want to say AWeb but I can't prove that anymore...). Since this makes the strut mount sit at an angle, I got a spare set of strut mount plates, cut out the section where the FSTB's mount sat, added some thick washers, and it fits underneath the strut mount plate that has the FSTB attached to it perfectly. I'll snap some pictures if you're interested.

 

I actually bought a second bar hoping it would fit as an RSTB, but no dice. Want a good cheap solution? Grab a stock FSTB off of a Pontiac Bonnieville (92-99). I don't know if it has to be an SSEi, as the car that I grabbed mine off of was not marked. The first bonnie that I opened up had the bar. You have to drill out the mounting holes a smidge, and you have to modify the bracket slightly to make it fit around the middle rear strut bolt, but so far it is fitting in great. You also need to either A) weld on a couple extra inches to the bonnie bar, or B) put in a new 1x1 square tube bar and drill out mounting holes. Honestly it sounds like the same amount of work unless someone can tell me why the bonnie bar is superior...

 

I'm in the middle of putting the bonnie bar in as my RSTB now, if you want me to snap some pictures of that too.

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Where can I pick up front and rear STBs for my car? Do the 97+ ones fit? GMPartsDirect and the like only have listings for newer models.

 

Also, do any of the goodies from the GXP or Comp-G third-gens work with my sedan?

 

Step 1: Attend Dayton W-body meet.

 

Step 2: Bring monies / other crap to trade or acquire monies with.

 

Step 3: Hope that Ken shows up in some sorry excuse for a W or some other vehicle that is sure to be missing all trim and bezel.

 

Step 4: Hide your kids, hide your wife, because they raping errbody out there!!

 

Step 5: Install FSTB

 

Step 6: Create build thread to celebrate successful installation.

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actually creating a thread should be first. That way all of us can be updated daily on the search. That would be VERY useful

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I could never find a Vert either, so an almost stock solution was out for me too. For an FSTB I bought the 97+ bar and mounted it to my strut mount plates (someones recommendation, I want to say AWeb but I can't prove that anymore...). Since this makes the strut mount sit at an angle, I got a spare set of strut mount plates, cut out the section where the FSTB's mount sat, added some thick washers, and it fits underneath the strut mount plate that has the FSTB attached to it perfectly. I'll snap some pictures if you're interested.

 

I actually bought a second bar hoping it would fit as an RSTB, but no dice. Want a good cheap solution? Grab a stock FSTB off of a Pontiac Bonnieville (92-99). I don't know if it has to be an SSEi, as the car that I grabbed mine off of was not marked. The first bonnie that I opened up had the bar. You have to drill out the mounting holes a smidge, and you have to modify the bracket slightly to make it fit around the middle rear strut bolt, but so far it is fitting in great. You also need to either A) weld on a couple extra inches to the bonnie bar, or B) put in a new 1x1 square tube bar and drill out mounting holes. Honestly it sounds like the same amount of work unless someone can tell me why the bonnie bar is superior...

 

I'm in the middle of putting the bonnie bar in as my RSTB now, if you want me to snap some pictures of that too.

Id love pics of both... maybe a new thread though, to not clutter this

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There are few junkyards around here, and none have any Bonneville STBs.

 

Ebay also has nothing.

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Ouch. I have 3 junkyards within 30 miles and each of them had Bonnies... But I live in the middle of CA. Pray at the AWeb altar?

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Ouch. I have 3 junkyards within 30 miles and each of them had Bonnies... But I live in the middle of CA. Pray at the AWeb altar?

 

Does he have a thread for this? I couldn't find one.

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Does he have a thread for this? I couldn't find one.

 

Group buy section.

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Found.

 

I'll just start with a RSTB and figure out a front bar when that project is finished.

 

Now, I'll assume from my STB research that if STBs aren't a direct fit between first- and second-gens, then not a hell of a lot else will swap between first- and third-gens? I've got this base model sedan sitting here and it just needs things, things which are more available the later of a model I can get it from. For instance, there are a few junkyards here, but I've checked and they don't have anything I can use (not even coupe seats from '88-'96). However, we do have a GM dealer downtown I can order things from, and GMPartsDirect is even cheaper.

Posted

I've got both FSTB's. Early round bar or later(3.4) square bar. How's 35 plus shipping your choice?

Posted

You set one aside in a quiet corner of your garage until tax returns arrive next week, and you sir have yourself a deal.

Posted

nice. i recommend the 3.4 bar if you have the choice. i think bxx is going to start making a rear bar?

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nice. i recommend the 3.4 bar if you have the choice. i think bxx is going to start making a rear bar?

 

 

Yup, ill be doing fronts as well, but both of those are about 2 months out. The vert bar works, but still isnt the best. I have an aftermarket bar on my vert now, did notice a bit of difference, and it looks much better than the vert bar:thumbsup: Ill prolly just be making copies of that aftermarket one. I dunno who made it.

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No problem, they've been sitting there for a while now. Just let me know.

 

I'll get in touch the day they get here.

Posted
The vert bar works, but still isnt the best. I have an aftermarket bar on my vert now, did notice a bit of difference, and it looks much better than the vert bar.

 

yeah i just meant it was the better choice if going between just the 2 vert bars. i like the buick bar

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