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dodgethis

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Well guys I thought id update you on what was going on with the car. I originally mentioned before that i would reinstall a new wheel bearing on the driver side, since I could hear it humming as if it was bad again. Well crazy as it sounds, after installing a new one I still have that loud vibration hum noise once again. :bawling1: So I am trying to find out what it could be. It has all the symptoms as if someone one think its the bearing. I almost wonder if maybe I need to blance my wheels, but my argument is that wheels come out of balance again later down the road anyway, so I am not zeroing in on that thought.

 

the only thing I can dream up for the reason I still hear it on the driver side is from me hitting the spindle with a rubber mallet, (trying to push it out of the wheel bearing hole). Which inadvertently has messed up the small bearings inside around where the transmission connects to the cv joint, and then to the axel spindle. I am going to take it to a shop just due not having alot of time with exams coming up and all.

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Well guys I took her in to Fire Rock, and was told that all 4 struts have been leaking and need to be replaced. I couldn't believe it but what i thought was the wheel bearing going out on the driver side, it was actually the front passenger side that needs to be replaced. I was informed that special tools are needed to be done, and something about the way the struts are that if not replaced can cause serious issues with steering with this type of vehicle. I was quoted roughly 1,272 for replacing all four struts. I was told that they are a real P.I.T.A, don't know how true that is. Replacing the wheel bearing from them will be added 250.00 to the total cost.

 

I never knew that hitting the 100,000 miles blues would cost so much.......damn..... Guys what are ya'lls take?

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You can rent the tool needed to do the strut job for the front. You can take care of the rest of the job with simple hand tools. You might need an offset wrench on the nut on top of the strut. I'm not sure about the rear on your car since it has the coil springs. Didnt you do the front hub job and give up? This time it should be easy since its all new components.

 

I also think that they are taking you for a ride. Seems expensive, but I do all my own work and havent ever taken my car to a mechanic besides yearly inspection, so I dont know the prices. Do struts when you feel its necessary...its not that much of a safety issue. If you feel like it compromises the suspension of your car, just dont drive like an asshole.

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Drive like an Asshole, got it. Thanks Mra32 for the thought, seriously though i would take it on, but school has just got me held down so much that I just don't have time to work on it, Exams are coming up, and I'll just take it somewhere that is alot reasonable. I'd do it if i had time.

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Maybe a member nearby you can do it for cheaper?

That doesnt sound right. why would worn struts cause the hum?

Thing is, I have the exact same symptom (94 regal)that didnt go away with a new driv side bearing or a set of 2 used tires. I also checked the toe and it had been alittle out, but setting it didnt help the hum. The hum can be felt in my left foot, it goes away when steering to right. I have 219k miles with oe front struts, rack,etc and car tracks perfectly....just hums now.

Would a rt side bearing cause a left side hum?

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It very well could, how IDK, but I have seen it since I work in a shop

dodgethis,

 

I tried to read your thread all again but cant find if you put a bearing on just 1 side or both. Consider that i just got fooled by which side my noise was emanating from..it was loudst on drivers but was found to be the pass side bearing. Fireprone will $$$ you, some of shop's motivation for changing "everything" is liability. Al, would he see shimmys before long if struts were going?

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Not really... Struts most of the time just get bouncy and don't absorb the road feel as much... Shimmys are usually an out of balance tire or a bad tire or even a cv shaft can cause a shake or shimmy

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Not really... Struts most of the time just get bouncy and don't absorb the road feel as much... Shimmys are usually an out of balance tire or a bad tire or even a cv shaft can cause a shake or shimmy

 

 

I think he needs to try a bearing, that is , if one of them is still oe. And maybe if his noise did stop initially after new bearing, then maybe its a bad new bearing.

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Thikstik, Thanks for the thoughts!

 

I took the car into Pep Dudes to have the car looked at. The two front bearings were checked while lifted in the air. They were both tight. I asked if they would drive it to see if they could hear that slight growling noise at roughly 35mph to 45mph which the growl increases with speed. The gentlemen did mention he herd the vibration, and due to its light vibration that its too early to possibly swap them out for a new one. He did mention it was coming from the driver side. I was told to just keep an eye on it, and if it gets louder to replace it. I hate to say it but i wonder when i had originally took on the task that when i started (Originally started at the driver side bearing) if i screwed myself because i used a rubber mallet and whacked at the transmission shaft to try to get the shaft to go into the bearing so that I could get the bearing to release. I don't know if i might have made the problem worse by hitting the spindle and will always hear that vibration noise even with a new bearing being put on. I think I am currently on my 3rd timken bearing. I think the next step will be looking into SKF, or possibly AC Delco's. Damn them AC delco's are expensive! I wonder if its worth dropping the $300.00 per bearing for the AC Delco's.

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[Dodgethis, No problem.

I dont think a rubber mallet could have hurt anything...not sure exactly , but i think you hit away from trans? Anyway, so you did replace both bearings?

All i can say is your symptom was exactly mine and mine was the pass side bearing. I was surprised at how much it sounded to be on driver side! BTW, mine had 0 play and it went for 5k miles and probably would have gone alot more.

Now i have a drfting problem, hopfully toe is out, but i dont see why r/r both bearings would have changed alignment.

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[Dodgethis, No problem.

I dont think a rubber mallet could have hurt anything...not sure exactly , but i think you hit away from trans? Anyway, so you did replace both bearings?

All i can say is your symptom was exactly mine and mine was the pass side bearing. I was surprised at how much it sounded to be on driver side! BTW, mine had 0 play and it went for 5k miles and probably would have gone alot more.

Now i have a drfting problem, hopfully toe is out, but i dont see why r/r both bearings would have changed alignment.

 

What brand of bearings did you replace yours with?

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What year / model is your car? I replaced all 4 struts in my 93 Pontiac GP, it's pretty doable by yourself. You need a special tool for the front struts (GM10 tool, you can get it like $40 on ebay, and I've heard you can rent it from AutoZone), but the rear struts are cake, except that you'll need to get an alignment afterwards. I was actually able to keep the alignment on the front tires good, but the rear tires were way off when I got it professionally aligned. There's a sticky somewhere on this site for the rears.

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What year / model is your car? I replaced all 4 struts in my 93 Pontiac GP, it's pretty doable by yourself. You need a special tool for the front struts (GM10 tool, you can get it like $40 on ebay, and I've heard you can rent it from AutoZone), but the rear struts are cake, except that you'll need to get an alignment afterwards. I was actually able to keep the alignment on the front tires good, but the rear tires were way off when I got it professionally aligned. There's a sticky somewhere on this site for the rears.

 

Its a 98 lumina, I think struts, but more so wheel bearings and bushings for the control arms, and where ever else new bushings are needed. I know Aweb has given me direction on how to replace them, I just need the time and the place to do it.

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[Dodgethis, No problem.

I dont think a rubber mallet could have hurt anything...not sure exactly , but i think you hit away from trans? Anyway, so you did replace both bearings?

All i can say is your symptom was exactly mine and mine was the pass side bearing. I was surprised at how much it sounded to be on driver side! BTW, mine had 0 play and it went for 5k miles and probably would have gone alot more.

Now i have a drfting problem, hopfully toe is out, but i dont see why r/r both bearings would have changed alignment.

 

 

i got 1 new National (federal mogul) and put it on side that was ok, then got the old bearing and put it on side with humming bearing. So , again, have you r/r both bearings?

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i got 1 new National (federal mogul) and put it on side that was ok, then got the old bearing and put it on side with humming bearing. So , again, have you r/r both bearings?

 

I haven't yet, I was getting some thoughts as to what you went for, and whats available from rock. I probably will suck it up and just buy another timken and do the job on my own. I need to start looking for air tools.

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I'd agree with the other bearing. I had a rear bearing go out in my regal, it was louder than hell going straight and even louder when going left, yet quiet when going right. So I figured sure it's the right rear since it gets louder when it's loaded. NOPE. It was the drivers bearing the whole time, somehow loading it up lessened the noise.

 

Oh and it had ZERO play in it at all when i replaced it. Just really loud.

 

As far as how long they can go making noise, my '96 aurora had a noisy bearing when I bought it, 25k miles later I replaced it and that one also had zero play.

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Hey guys, yea I got it figured out. What actually ended up happening is after taking it to a shop twice to have them install the timken bearing that I bought from rock auto, I decided to say screw It and drive down to Florida with it being bad. (second timken from rock auto, I was gonna get my moneys worth out of it). I headed to Florida to see my grandmother, and she had suggested to take it to one of her shops she knew of to fix her vehicles. Well I have to admit that the side I swore was the culprit was actually the opposite ( I think the driver side, funny because I could hear it on the passengers side.) the shop I took it into was alot cheaper than what was quoted up here in chat town. It all worked out in the end, that bearing had it by the time I got into Florida, sounded like I had a new resonator under my feet every time when I accelerated to 40 mph :lol:

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