Regal_GS_1989 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Show him this. It doesn't really start until 4minutes I think a lot of us here have bad opinions about ABS because most of us have or have had the Delco ABS-VI. It sucks horribly. Especially in the snow. It seems to work on the principle that keeping the brakes the brakes from applying also keep them from locking! Not all that long ago I use to hate ABS too because of my driving first gen w's, but have since learned better. The ABS/TC/ESP system in that car in the video in the exact same system in a 98-08 Grand Prix. It's the Bosch 5.3 system used by dozens of automakers over the last 15 years and is still being used. Getting a 98+ GP without it in a cold climate is dumb. There's simply no way a "good driver" can outperform a good modern ABS. A "good driver" keeps the wheels from locking by either pumping the brakes or riding the threshold of traction. This keeps all four wheels below the locking point of the wheel with the lowest traction, essentially a "four wheel, one-channel" ABS system. Real ABS can modulate each wheel individually. No way for a driver to apply less braking to one particular wheel to keep a car straight and stop quicker. Look at the video around 8:54 seconds and what the system was doing to the wheels with the car barreling through snow at 70mph. That feat couldn't be done without it. I used to hate ABS as well...but that changed once i got my 2nd gen. Coupled with Winter tires...I would not want to drive a vehicle all winter without those 2 items again. The difference between my Regal and my GF's Intrigue was night and day, and even though her car had a brand new set of all season tires that first winter...it wasn't even close. Her car simply took a lot more distance to stop than mine ever did. It also took a much lighter foot to accelerate as well. Needless to say it now rides 6 months of the year on winter rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Half the miles and the almost the same price. http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=c&car_id=283477607&dealer_id=100017886&car_year=2007&rdm=1282658340557&lastStartYear=1981&num_records=100&model=GP&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=2004&keywordsfyc=&engine=&keywordsrep=&certified=&body_code=1&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=25&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=PONT&color=&keywords_display=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&position=top&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=mileageASC&address=48021&advanced=&end_year=2008&transmission=&doors=&max_price=&cardist=26&standard=false Bought this car tonight, THANKS. BASE BASE BASE, BUCKY is it possible to add the DIC to this car? he only has three buttons under the center dash screen where it shows mileage and tire pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=2008+grand+prix+5+button+DIC&_sacat=0&_sop=3&_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_odkw=2008+grand+prix+dic&_osacat=0&bkBtn=&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313 OUCH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 As you can see, they go for ridiculously high prices, and you can't install it without re-programming the BCM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakdown Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 2008 Grand Prix $10,000 Cdn. Approx 12,000 miles. http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2008-Pontiac-Grand-Prix-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ225924067 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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