kuntzie Posted March 26, 2010 Report Posted March 26, 2010 I am very interested in what you are doing as I am looking to do the same thing.... if I can ever find a lumina to strip. I don't want to hi-jack your thread, but I was wondering since we were on the topic if the parts from a 282 car are the same as a 284 car? Are they interchangeable? Wouldn't want to pull pedals, cables, shifter from a 282 car only to find it doesn't work with a 284 trans. Meanwhile, if both are the same, the removal process should be the same. This should help you get the parts out.... found it online.... not my car but very cool step by step.... http://www.bonnevilleforum.com/showthread.php?t=285100 DG I plan on manual swapping my '95 Z34 as well. I would like to point out that 282 parts SHOULD work with the 284, since the 284 is just a heavy duty 282. the transmissions and parts are not even remotly similar, one is pull the other is push type, mounts are different, everything is different, cminus the flyweel Quote
kuntzie Posted March 26, 2010 Report Posted March 26, 2010 also nick, i used a brake switch for my cruise disable from the same car and just spliced it in. Quote
Addicted To Boost Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Posted March 27, 2010 I finished pulling the remainder of the parts today, minus the firewall plate and pedals. The transmission will be pulled during the week and I'll be grabbing the plate and pedals once the engine/trans are out. Plus I call dibs on the brake booster if your not using it. I'll need it. I grabbed the brake booster as well. Quote
Z34guy Posted March 27, 2010 Report Posted March 27, 2010 I am very interested in what you are doing as I am looking to do the same thing.... if I can ever find a lumina to strip. I don't want to hi-jack your thread, but I was wondering since we were on the topic if the parts from a 282 car are the same as a 284 car? Are they interchangeable? Wouldn't want to pull pedals, cables, shifter from a 282 car only to find it doesn't work with a 284 trans. Meanwhile, if both are the same, the removal process should be the same. This should help you get the parts out.... found it online.... not my car but very cool step by step.... http://www.bonnevilleforum.com/showthread.php?t=285100 DG I plan on manual swapping my '95 Z34 as well. I would like to point out that 282 parts SHOULD work with the 284, since the 284 is just a heavy duty 282. the transmissions and parts are not even remotly similar, one is pull the other is push type, mounts are different, everything is different, cminus the flyweel Thanks Kuntzie. I wasn't sure, but I figured since they were so closely related... Quote
Addicted To Boost Posted April 5, 2010 Author Report Posted April 5, 2010 (edited) I finished pulling the remainder of the parts today and now have all the parts for a complete 282 5-speed swap. I grabbed: 282 trans axles flywheel clutch shifter cables shifter assembly firewall plate with clutch and brake pedals on it wiring harness and vacuum lines for clutch/brake/cruise switches 5-speed specific 3-point motor mount trans mount clutch master and slave brake booster gauge cluster 88-89 specific hood/gas door opener assembly and trim both front gray cloth AQ9s- passenger is near mint, just needs cleaned, drivers has torn fabric on left bolster, otherwise in nice shape. My work here is done... now to find a suitable car to put all this stuff in.... Edited April 5, 2010 by Addicted To Boost Quote
gpchris Posted April 9, 2010 Report Posted April 9, 2010 The only thing that's different with the 284 is the clutch, fork and slave cylinder. Everything else 282/284 is interchangable. I just skimmed trough but to answer some questions... The firewall plate and pedal bracket has to be removed from inside the car. The brakebooster and clutch master cylinder have to be removed from the engine bay. Engine does NOT have to be removed to pull the firewall bracket or hvac system. For whoever plans a 5spd swap into a 94+ car the clutch pedal bracket IS NOT A BOLT IN! To do it right you'll need tools like a drill, tap, welder etc. Quote
94GPGTP Posted April 9, 2010 Report Posted April 9, 2010 Cables are different, trans is different, clutch, tailshaft bracket, trans mount, axles, shifter, etc etc. Their are alot of differences. Really the only things that are interchangeable are the firewall plates ( including the clutch pedal and brake pedal and everything else on it) clutch master, clutch slave.. So therefor all parts are not interchangeable. I have both 284 and 282 and I speak from experience here. Quote
White93z34 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Posted April 9, 2010 Good point, and you are right about the only similar parts are the firewall plate and clutch pedal/bracket. master might be the same, but the clutch slave is def different on 284 cars... which isn't to say that a 282 slave would not work, it probably could. Quote
94GPGTP Posted April 9, 2010 Report Posted April 9, 2010 Slaves should be the same when you remove the line. The lines are definitely different though but alaves should be the same. Quote
GutlessSupreme Posted April 9, 2010 Report Posted April 9, 2010 I guess I'm not understanding how the slaves could be the same since one's a push-type clutch and the other's a pull-type. But then I don't have any experience with the 284. Quote
94GPGTP Posted April 10, 2010 Report Posted April 10, 2010 the Fork arms have different geometry.. All slave push a rod none will pull.. The clutch master does not make vacuum it makes pressure.. same as your brake master.. Quote
GOT2B GM Posted April 10, 2010 Report Posted April 10, 2010 Right now I'm running a muncie 4 spd slave on my getrag 282 on my Fiero. As long as the cylinder stroke length is similar and it bolts up, should be good to go. Quote
GutlessSupreme Posted April 12, 2010 Report Posted April 12, 2010 the Fork arms have different geometry.. All slave push a rod none will pull.. The clutch master does not make vacuum it makes pressure.. same as your brake master.. No I'm aware that it wouldn't make a vacuum, but that doesn't mean the inlet couldn't potentially be positioned differently to push the rod in the opposite direction. I guess you probably get into all sorts of sealing issues with a configuration like that though. Quote
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