douellette Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 does that sound like the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Is the sludge white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Yep! Get yourself some fel-pro perma dry gaskets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douellette Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Yep! Get yourself some fel-pro perma dry gaskets! damn it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douellette Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Is the sludge white? this is what it looked like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douellette Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 upon looking up the gaskets on rockauto. it says i have a choice of either the old rocker arms or the roller ones. how do i know which i have?? The build date is 2-19-96 if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 YOU MUST BUY THE METAL ONES. You just quoted information that applies ONLY to the plastic ones that WILL fail again. look for "PERMADRY PLUS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Wait.. why is there green antifreeze?? Did they flush the dex cool out and use that instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douellette Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Wait.. why is there green antifreeze?? Did they flush the dex cool out and use that instead? i couldnt tell what color cause the resevoir was empty and it just low enough in the radiator that i couldnt see the color. YOU MUST BUY THE METAL ONES. You just quoted information that applies ONLY to the plastic ones that WILL fail again. look for "PERMADRY PLUS" those ones are the most expensive ones, but it says i still have to choose the type of rocker arms. i need help with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 You can see green right on the lip there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douellette Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 You can see green right on the lip there ooooh. or they could have mixed it when they noticed it getting low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 those ones are the most expensive ones, but it says i still have to choose the type of rocker arms. i need help with that. pull off the valve cover and take a picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douellette Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 those ones are the most expensive ones, but it says i still have to choose the type of rocker arms. i need help with that. pull off the valve cover and take a picture. well if i go through the trouble of doing that i can determine it myself, im just trying to make it easy. cause didnt they switch over after a certain manufacture date or vin # ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatTheFehl Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 You can see green right on the lip there ooooh. or they could have mixed it when they noticed it getting low. Mixed antifreeze = pain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 well if i go through the trouble of doing that i can determine it myself, im just trying to make it easy. cause didnt they switch over after a certain manufacture date or vin # ? they probably did, but AFAIK, that date/VIN breakpoint may or may not be known... all 96 3100s had heads that allowed for roller rockers, but they didn't all necessarily get them... alldata isn't specifying an exact date/VIN either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douellette Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 well if i go through the trouble of doing that i can determine it myself, im just trying to make it easy. cause didnt they switch over after a certain manufacture date or vin # ? they probably did, but AFAIK, that date/VIN breakpoint may or may not be known... all 96 3100s had heads that allowed for roller rockers, but they didn't all necessarily get them... alldata isn't specifying an exact date/VIN either... damn, guess that means i gotta go pull the cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carkhz316 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Not necessarily a problem. People are forgetting that it could have had bar's leak or equivalent dumped in it at some time. That will make the brownish sludge in the filler neck as well. There's threads mentioning the use of stop leak from the factory since the 90's, which both my Monte Carlo and my Silverado had in em. Flushed the coolant and no more sludge. BUT, intake gaskets are not a difficult task either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96oldsmobubble Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 my 1996 Cutlass has roller rocker arms and dexcool in the 3100, this may help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douellette Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Not necessarily a problem. People are forgetting that it could have had bar's leak or equivalent dumped in it at some time. That will make the brownish sludge in the filler neck as well. There's threads mentioning the use of stop leak from the factory since the 90's, which both my Monte Carlo and my Silverado had in em. Flushed the coolant and no more sludge. BUT, intake gaskets are not a difficult task either. yeah i know the gaskets arnt hard to do, there just a pain. i did them on my cutlass a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 YOU MUST BUY THE METAL ONES. You just quoted information that applies ONLY to the plastic ones that WILL fail again. look for "PERMADRY PLUS" those ones are the most expensive ones, but it says i still have to choose the type of rocker arms. i need help with that. FAIL!!!! IT SAYS IT WORKS FOR BOTH TYPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS THE CORRECT ONE. 1996 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS SUPREME SL 3.1L 189cid V6 MFI (M) OHV : Engine : Intake Manifold Gasket Price Core Total FEL-PRO Part # MS98004T {PermaDryPlus®; 2 intake manifold gaskets, 1 egr tube gasket, 1 egr valve gasket, 1 thermostat seal, 2 valve covers, 1 egr tube gasket, 1 thermostat bypass oring, 2 intake manifold upper gaskets, 1 tube RTV}1st Design; w/Ball & Pivot rocker arms; w/o Push rod guides on int. gskt.; Valve cover gskts. & Upper set incl. int. manifold gskts. incl. 2nd Design; w/Roller rocker arms; w/Push rod guides on int. gskt.; Valve cover gskts. & Upper set incl. int. manifold gskts. incl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douellette Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 YOU MUST BUY THE METAL ONES. You just quoted information that applies ONLY to the plastic ones that WILL fail again. look for "PERMADRY PLUS" those ones are the most expensive ones, but it says i still have to choose the type of rocker arms. i need help with that. FAIL!!!! IT SAYS IT WORKS FOR BOTH TYPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS THE CORRECT ONE. 1996 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS SUPREME SL 3.1L 189cid V6 MFI (M) OHV : Engine : Intake Manifold Gasket Price Core Total FEL-PRO Part # MS98004T {PermaDryPlus®; 2 intake manifold gaskets, 1 egr tube gasket, 1 egr valve gasket, 1 thermostat seal, 2 valve covers, 1 egr tube gasket, 1 thermostat bypass oring, 2 intake manifold upper gaskets, 1 tube RTV}1st Design; w/Ball & Pivot rocker arms; w/o Push rod guides on int. gskt.; Valve cover gskts. & Upper set incl. int. manifold gskts. incl. 2nd Design; w/Roller rocker arms; w/Push rod guides on int. gskt.; Valve cover gskts. & Upper set incl. int. manifold gskts. incl. yeah but i looked it up on advance auto parts. and it listed it twice, once for each type of rocker, but it was the same part number for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 ROCKAUTO or DIAF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douellette Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 ROCKAUTO or DIAF. well i bought it at advance today so i didnt have to wait for shipping. whats DIAF?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatTheFehl Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Die in a Fire. Shopping at Advance FTL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Die in a Fire. Shopping at Advance FTL. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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