White93z34 Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 So due to the relative rarity of TGP clusters, and more over tgp clusters that actually work right. I broke down and bought a later sport cluster from a 3.1 SE recently, aparently the 91-93 clusters are better at actually displaying the MPH and RPM semi correctly, and I'd just as soon have a voltage gauge that reads voltage rather then a Boost gauge that reads whatever the hell it wants to. Getting the milage set correct was easy. I also moved over the pigtail on the top of it. I checked my 90' GP FSM, and it only has pinouts for the Sport and Base clusters (which are the same FTR), yes I also checked the Turbo supplements for a pinout but a pinout for the Turbo cluster was no where to be found. I did however find that the boost gauge gets its input from pin C16 which is unused on the Sport cluster. Which leads me to believe that that is the only difference and I should be able to just drop this cluster in and have it work fine. Am I right in believing that this should do the trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 want me to post pinouts for other clusters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 if you have them, please. I went through all my 90' FSM for the turbo pinout and could not find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonpro03 Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Also interested.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 if you have them, please. I went through all my 90' FSM for the turbo pinout and could not find it. no problem, i'll shoot up the TGP cluster and say a 93 with the guage package? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 sure, I'm using a cluster from a 92' though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 alldata refuses to show info for the 89 or 90 TGP clusters, but i can get the 92 guage cluster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 That's what I figured you'd run into, I have all that, plus the actual pinouts for a 90-93 sport cluster they are also posted here: http://www.tgpforums.com/index.php/topic,2439.0.html so hopefully next few days I'll get to try it out and hopefully everything will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 sounds like you'll be able to get away with plug and play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mra32 Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Getting the milage set correct was easy. What did you do to set this? This is whats holding me back from installing the cluster you gave me. yes its still in my garage, but this will help me install it repinning is no biggie though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 actually I have been meaning to mess with completely tearing a odometer apart. What I did was just take the entire odometer assembly from the old cluster and put it in the new one as it just screws to the back of the cluster. the lumina ones are different in that the ones with the trip odo are different then the base ones. pm me or email me and I'll see what we can figure out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I've actually turned the odometer rolls themselves. NO YOU CREEPS! I WAS CORRECTING MILEAGE. you can PM, too. or call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted To Boost Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I've actually turned the odometer rolls themselves. NO YOU CREEPS! I WAS CORRECTING MILEAGE. you can PM, too. or call? I've done that... I have a spare TGP cluster with 0 miles on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Okay, finished product: A normal sport cluster will plug right in, no wiring modifications needed whatsoever. the Boost gauge gets its input on pin C16 which is not used on the N/A cluster. however you will need to take a soldering iron and remove and reinstall the little pigtail on the top of the cluster the holes are already there, just de-solder them and re-solder them on the new cluster. New cluster works perfect too, speedo and tach are spot on, nice to have a battery gauge for a change. While I had the cluster torn apart I also re-soldered the connections for the check gauges and low fuel lamps. also had to stick a lamp in the anti-lock spot as the car I got the cluster out of did not have ABS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 easy peasy. Nice work. Should be a TGP writeup IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Hmm...then in theory a TGP cluster would work in a N/A GP, give or take a boost gauge....if I could find a cluster again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Hmm...then in theory a TGP cluster would work in a N/A GP, give or take a boost gauge....if I could find a cluster again. They're all broken. There's a reason why some people are resorting to using N/A clusters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Hmm...then in theory a TGP cluster would work in a N/A GP, give or take a boost gauge....if I could find a cluster again. They're all broken. There's a reason why some people are resorting to using N/A clusters. Granted, yes. My cluster broke though and my dealership fixed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGTU Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 thought only the solder on the TGP cluster cracked and you had to go over it again. Was a common problem. Might be invisible to the naked eye. Just go over it again. I think it was around the driver ICs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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