alec_b Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Hi guys- Forgive me if this in posted in the wrong area, I didn't see anything for electrical mods, just audio. I just picked up a '95 Grand Prix SE, 3100. 92k miles on it, great shape. It's got a decent amount of options for an SE: power drivers seat, alloy wheels, etc, but other than that it's pretty basic. One thing I was curious about was adding the DIC that was available. I'm having trouble locating one, however. Also, what amount of work would be needed to install this other than the usual "remove the pocket install the dic" stuff. If it's going to take a ton of work I'll probably just pass on it, but I thought it'd be cool anyways. Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Keep in mind, for your 1996, the DIC is 1996 only. A quick search should get you the wire color information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 remove the access cover on the driver's side of the dash, and see if you have the wiring needed. It will be tucked up behind the cluster area... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec_b Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Wow thanks for the replies guys. I'll have to check out the dash and see if there's any wiring back there. That's too bad about the '96 only thing... it's gonna be a pain to find. I do like the car though, rides very nice. It's my first W-body. I'm coming from a long line of GM rides: K-body (1994 seville) G-body (1996 Aurora) H-body (1996 Bonneville SSEi) and another G (1999 Seville). I like the way the W-body drives, it's a little lighter than the bigger lines but handles well and has great brakes. Thanks for all the help, again. Have a great day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 That's too bad about the '96 only thing... it's gonna be a pain to find. they are a big PITA to find......I just sold one to another member a couple of days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec_b Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Damn! That's too bad ha. You don't happen to know if they are pre-wired for the DIC do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Only way to know is to pop off the cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 RE: pre-wired DICs. This came up in a discussion, and this MIGHT be the case... I thought for a while that the car would have to have performance sound to have a DIC. this is NOT the case. In fact, I recently analyzed two GPs that did not have pre-wiring. what was common between them? NEITHER HAD ABS. Could be the answer! well then, tell us, if you car does or does not have ABS, and then see if you do or do not have the harness??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 holy shit you must know me, all of the cars you have had are my absolute favorite. I love auroras, I love cadillac sevilles and eldorados, I love Bonnevilles. I would like to get a 96 Riviera someday also though lol. I say very good taste on GM luxury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec_b Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Ha thanks. I double checked the year, I actually have a '95. No, it doesn't not have ABS. Guess that means I'm not wired. Is it now becoming a '95 only part? That's gonna be impossible to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Ha thanks. I double checked the year, I actually have a '95. No, it doesn't not have ABS. Guess that means I'm not wired. Is it now becoming a '95 only part? That's gonna be impossible to find. You can use a '94-'95 DIC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyfloyd Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have one from a 95 with a pigtail harness if you are interested in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Alec, I added DICs to cars, so have others. where are you located? maybe you can get a hand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec_b Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I'm in the twin cities, minneapolis downtown specifically. Jimmy, what were you looking to get for the unit? PM me we can talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Ha thanks. I double checked the year, I actually have a '95. No, it doesn't not have ABS. Guess that means I'm not wired. Is it now becoming a '95 only part? That's gonna be impossible to find. Please double check if you have wiring! it is still only a theory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec_b Posted January 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 You know what, I just installed a radio the other night and completely forgot to look for the wiring! Guess I'll be taking the dash apart again, at least they made it easy to take off. I have to take it apart anyways, the puppy spilled an entire can of arizona fruit punch all over the console! Needless to say the shifter doesn't work as smoothly as it once did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 You only need to pop the little side cover off (the one visible only when the door is open) and look up behind the cluster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyfloyd Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Pics of the one I have: Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec_b Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Oh wait does that install on the pocket on the LEFT of the cluster? I for some reason thought it went above the center dash vents in that pocket. So all I have to do is look through the access door on the drivers side of the dash and look for... what exactly. A male plug end just dangling there? If I don't have wiring, I'm sure it's not that hard to add a few power, ground, and bus wires. However, will the data line in my car carry the information that's required to operate the DIC? I'd hate to wire it all up, especially from scratch, and have it not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Oh wait does that install on the pocket on the LEFT of the cluster? I for some reason thought it went above the center dash vents in that pocket. So all I have to do is look through the access door on the drivers side of the dash and look for... what exactly. A male plug end just dangling there? If I don't have wiring, I'm sure it's not that hard to add a few power, ground, and bus wires. However, will the data line in my car carry the information that's required to operate the DIC? I'd hate to wire it all up, especially from scratch, and have it not work. Hidden in the FAQ HUD thread are the instructions to install the DIC. Yes the car will be DIC ready. I even stuck on in a CS, so have others.... 1997+ GPs have a DIC on the right side above the vents. The spot is eerily similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec_b Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 That's great! It's even ready for the temp signal? I bet I'll have to add a temp sensor for that... but I don't mind that not working so much although it'd be cool. I'll read through the HUD faq and see what I find. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 If you car is not pre-wired, you will have to follow through what I wrote in the HUD FAQ. Temp sensor and wire must be added. I do not know if a pre-wired car is fully prewired to the sensor or just the dash harness only. Adding the temp sensor requires getting a sensor from behind the bumper of a donor car(found on any CS with automatic climate controls) the wires from the sensor to the junction block(C200) under the right side of the dash. the harness is part of the headlight harness on a CS and GP. What i did was dismantle a donor car's harness and ran the wires in parrallel to where to hook up to the dash harness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 If it is pre-wired, the harness will be stuck way back and rolled up, taped together. You will have to feel around a bit, but if you find a bunch of wiring that appears to be taped for no good reason, undo the tape and see if you find a plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec_b Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I'll have to look for that wiring one of these days. Hopefully it's wired, but if it's not no big deal. I just thought it'd be a cool thing to have. Thanks for all the help! Oh, and after reading that FAQ, am I correct in assuming that my '95 is also wired up for the HUD? That was my single most favorite feature in my SSEi (except for that supercharger whine, of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I'll have to look for that wiring one of these days. Hopefully it's wired, but if it's not no big deal. I just thought it'd be a cool thing to have. Thanks for all the help! Oh, and after reading that FAQ, am I correct in assuming that my '95 is also wired up for the HUD? That was my single most favorite feature in my SSEi (except for that supercharger whine, of course). It's all or nothing man! Go find out, NOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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