AL Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 My cousin just called me and told me her tranny died in her 94 Buick Century 3100... I was thinking the tranny was different in 94 then in 96 (I have a 96 3100 GP tranny)... Are they different or would the one that I have work in her car? If they are different, I have another request, Does anyone have a tranny that would work in her car? And the closer to Fort Wayne, IN you are, the better... Quote
RobertISaar Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 a 94 and 96 3100 4t60e have the same gears, torque convertor and VSS reluctor wheel. what else do you think could be different? Quote
5speedz34 Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 An A-body like that will have completely different FDR and possible other minute differences. My guess is A-bodies went OBD II at the same time W's did, but I could be wrong. Quote
RobertISaar Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 oops. i saw century and thought regal... yes, OBD2 in 96, though the 94-95 A cars had removeable PROMs and are tuneable the way other OBD1 cars are. a 94 A car has 2.97 gears, a 29 tooth VSS reluctor and a 1630RPM stall. WAY different. Quote
IRONDOG442 Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 1994 and 1995 are standalone transmissions remember the obd 1.5 guys? Quote
5speedz34 Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 1994 and 1995 are standalone transmissions remember the obd 1.5 guys? That sucks, although when it comes to automatics I wouldn't fuck with different years if I was replacing. Quote
RobertISaar Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 1994 and 1995 are standalone transmissions remember the obd 1.5 guys? HUH? what's the ECM got to do with it? Quote
Crazy K Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 1994 and 1995 are standalone transmissions remember the obd 1.5 guys? HUH? what's the ECM got to do with it? it doesn't. he is incorrect. but the 94 a-body trans is not compatible with a w-body trans. Quote
RobertISaar Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 1994 and 1995 are standalone transmissions remember the obd 1.5 guys? HUH? what's the ECM got to do with it? it doesn't. he is incorrect. that's what i was thinking... there weren't any internal changes that i know of that happened between 94 and 96. the PCM doesn't control it any differently either. Quote
Crazy K Posted December 25, 2009 Report Posted December 25, 2009 there IS a difference between 94-95, and 96... but it simply has to do with the ring gear... so as long as the differential is year matched to the tranny... they interchange........ Quote
IRONDOG442 Posted December 25, 2009 Report Posted December 25, 2009 The back of the trans from the the A bodies and the Grand Am transaxles dont work in the W-body because the mounting system is different and the bolt holes are in the wrong place for the mounts. I am not incorrect Ken, when you do a parts search for compatible transmissions using a 1994 or 1995 Cutlass on car-part.com ONLY 1994 and 1995 transaxles come up. The PCM/ECM are coupled together on these cars. The 4t60e is semi electronically controlled Thats what it has to do with it. Quote
ManicMechanic Posted December 25, 2009 Report Posted December 25, 2009 However, an a-body 282 is identical to a w-body 282............................ Quote
Crazy K Posted December 25, 2009 Report Posted December 25, 2009 The back of the trans from the the A bodies and the Grand Am transaxles dont work in the W-body because the mounting system is different and the bolt holes are in the wrong place for the mounts. I am not incorrect Ken, when you do a parts search for compatible transmissions using a 1994 or 1995 Cutlass on car-part.com ONLY 1994 and 1995 transaxles come up. The PCM/ECM are coupled together on these cars. The 4t60e is semi electronically controlled Thats what it has to do with it. there is lies the first problem. car-part fails to clarify that although different, they can be swapped. NOTHING to do with the PCM at all, but rather a change in the RING GEAR and DIFFERENTIAL. hmm... I have to refind the diff info.... but here is SOME info... http://dtcc.cz28.com/transmission/index.htm http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1994_4T60-E.pdf http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1995_4T60-E.pdf http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1996_4T60-E.pdf Quote
RobertISaar Posted December 25, 2009 Report Posted December 25, 2009 However, an a-body 282 is identical to a w-body 282............................ REALLY? i thought they had different mounts, but that's actually good news. http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1994_4T60-E.pdf http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1995_4T60-E.pdf http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1996_4T60-E.pdf WIN X 3. Quote
Jonpro03 Posted December 25, 2009 Report Posted December 25, 2009 I've got a 94 gp trans in my 96 if that helps. Quote
AL Posted December 25, 2009 Author Report Posted December 25, 2009 That does... I forgot that the century was a different platform in 94 Quote
RobertISaar Posted December 25, 2009 Report Posted December 25, 2009 That does... I forgot that the century was a different platform in 94 hence my lack of clarification in my first post. Quote
Jonpro03 Posted December 25, 2009 Report Posted December 25, 2009 I had to swap electronics though. Quote
Crazy K Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 I had to swap electronics though. oh... you can do that or swap pins. otherwise it is the same except the ring gear. Quote
IRONDOG442 Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 SO Ken since you are the expert here what work is required to make this trans function in my Dad's 1994 supreme PROPERLY!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4T60E-REMANUFACTURED-TRANSMISSION-95-CHEVY-CORSICA_W0QQitemZ270306479940QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3eef858f44 Quote
Crazy K Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1994_4T60-E.pdf http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1995_4T60-E.pdf 94 cutlass supreme 4AFW 3.1L W Body (4-bolt side cover) 3.33 35/35 3.33 30 2095 95 corsica: 5WFW 3.1L L/N Body (6-bolt side cover) *3.29 37/33 2.93 29 1630 It would take a God. they are completely different. what happened to the tranny you bought from a low mileage car??? Quote
IRONDOG442 Posted December 26, 2009 Report Posted December 26, 2009 http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1994_4T60-E.pdf http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1995_4T60-E.pdf 94 cutlass supreme 4AFW 3.1L W Body (4-bolt side cover) 3.33 35/35 3.33 30 2095 95 corsica: 5WFW 3.1L L/N Body (6-bolt side cover) *3.29 37/33 2.93 29 1630 It would take a God. they are completely different. what happened to the tranny you bought from a low mileage car??? Had metal shavings in the pan we didnt use it. Quote
Crazy K Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1994_4T60-E.pdf http://home.att.net/~subzero350/1995_4T60-E.pdf 94 cutlass supreme 4AFW 3.1L W Body (4-bolt side cover) 3.33 35/35 3.33 30 2095 95 corsica: 5WFW 3.1L L/N Body (6-bolt side cover) *3.29 37/33 2.93 29 1630 It would take a God. they are completely different. what happened to the tranny you bought from a low mileage car??? Had metal shavings in the pan we didnt use it. how much metal shavings???? pic? some shavings are normal from transmission break-in.... Quote
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