Marcus18 Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 ok I'm going in the next couple months start to convert my 93 into a RWD. I have the automatic transmission out of the blazer I'm stealing axle from, it needs a rebuild though. I always liked manual transmissions because of control and the sporty factor. My dad says auto is better in drag racing. so should I: a: do a performance rebuild and shift kit on the auto. or b: put a manual in it. I want to get real low times at the strip say 11 or 12 secs. which should be easier with the rear wheel drive. any thoughts? marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 well, unless you put a *lot* of money in to an auto tranny, a manual will give you better results... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john99gtp Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 I always liked manual transmissions because of control and the sporty factor. My dad says auto is better in drag racing. so should I:a: do a performance rebuild and shift kit on the auto. or b: put a manual in it. I want to get real low times at the strip say 11 or 12 secs. which should be easier with the rear wheel drive. any thoughts? marcus What!?! Automatic better in drag racing? I beg to differ. If you know how to drive a stick, a manual would own an automatic hands down (if there equal on power). Good example, went to the dragway twice, both times with a kid who drives a 98 Avenger. First time there, I smoked him, he wasnt shifting right. Second time there, he kicked my ass, he gained 5mph by the end, going from like 76 to 81, which in turn dropped his times. Both our cars are rated for 140hp, and even with a few "mods" () he kicked my ass. Bottom line: Go with manual. Only thing auto is good for is the start, you can jump the line faster, after that, you're toast. my .02 John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 either way you go pay close atention to the gear ratios make sure you adjust your tires for the ratios steeper 1st gear and rear end gear the fast you get off the line all in all do some math to see the ratios with the rear end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrulz4u Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 What!?! Automatic better in drag racing? I beg to differ. Automatic transmission ARE BETTER for drag racing!! BUT, NOT because they are "faster" but because they are more "CONSISTENT"! Remember, most professional Drag Racing is competed by way of BRACKET RACING. Being consistent is FAR more important than going as fast as possible once or twice. Any drag racer would rather run this: 6.7, 6.9, 6.6, 6.7, 6.8 rather than: 6.2, 8.1, 7.4, 7. 8, 5.9, 8.4 and running an Auto Tranny allows them to do so! Another more minor reason is the fact that some of the Nitro dragsters accelerate from 0-300 MPH in 4 seconds, faster than any other vehicle in the world, and just think of how hard it would be to try and shift a Manual Transmission PERFECTLY when you're done the race in the blink of an eye!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topless94style Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 you have a point ^ except our cars arent Nitro cars and cant run under ten seconds. Until they start doing so, I would go with the manual unless you plan on getting into some braket racing for 15 second cars?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92turboLE Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 I always liked manual transmissions because of control and the sporty factor. My dad says auto is better in drag racing. so should I:a: do a performance rebuild and shift kit on the auto. or b: put a manual in it. I want to get real low times at the strip say 11 or 12 secs. which should be easier with the rear wheel drive. any thoughts? marcus What!?! Automatic better in drag racing? I beg to differ. If you know how to drive a stick, a manual would own an automatic hands down (if there equal on power). Good example, went to the dragway twice, both times with a kid who drives a 98 Avenger. First time there, I smoked him, he wasnt shifting right. Second time there, he kicked my ass, he gained 5mph by the end, going from like 76 to 81, which in turn dropped his times. Both our cars are rated for 140hp, and even with a few "mods" () he kicked my ass. Bottom line: Go with manual. Only thing auto is good for is the start, you can jump the line faster, after that, you're toast. my .02 John I beg to differ.... the whole reasonong behind having an auto for drag is for bracket racing when you are not so much looking for performance as you are looking for consistency. An auto will launch and shift exactly the same every time. just my $.02 - Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrulz4u Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 you have a point ^ except our cars arent Nitro cars and cant run under ten seconds. Until they start doing so, I would go with the manual unless you plan on getting into some braket racing for 15 second cars?!? Yeah I realize that, obviously...I wasn't arguing what's better with regards to OUR cars, I was trying to explain to him what his dad meant when he said "automatics are better for drag racing"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccrplayrgtp Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 I was curious how you plan on doing this RWD by the way....lol.... do you have a plan or even looked under the car? Or are you just gonna do it and worry about it later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus18 Posted September 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Well I'm sticking a rear end out of a blazer with the section of frame that attaches to it. I'm going to take all current rear parts out. Then I'm going to recess the frame section into the current unibody frame. I have a torch and welder I'll figure it out. I don't think that is the hard part. The hard part is the front steering as the transmission has to go where it is now. I'm going to switch the steering arms around so the steering arms are facing forward if that doesn't work I'll figure somthing else out. then I'm going to notch the oil pan on the 3800 so the steering thing can go under it. I'm planning on putting a bubble in the hood so I can put the engine as high as posible. the other thing is I'll have to take alittle bit out of the firewall. I think I'm going to go with the auto. I can swap later If I don't like it. I think it's the easiest. I won't have to put a clutch of anything like that into it. I'm wanting to build in to be able to bring the front end off the ground like the trans am's do. crazy, but it would be really cool. I was thinking about f-bodys but I don't like to sit so low. gp's are comfortable. marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbtk2 Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 I want to get real low times at the strip say 11 or 12 secs. Umm...if that is the case you are going to want to get a different engine. Yes the Series I L67 is a good engine, but it has a less efficient blower than the Series II (which is a major problem), and there are not very many aftermarket parts available for it. A Series II will be easier and probably even cheaper to make an 11 or 12 second car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john99gtp Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 ooooooooooooooo. I get it what you mean now When i go dragging, i just go as fast as i can, im not in some bracket thing, and probably never will be with this pos. is that what the dial in is? I agree the auto is more consistent, thats why i owned him one day, and he owned me the next, cause he learned how to shift, while i was just stomping. Again, sorry for sounding like an ass John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomeoZ34 Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 Instead of doing a RWD swap and wasting a bunch of money, just do a engine swap or turbo the existing motor. FWD isn't all that bad, just put in a beefed up 282 or a 284 if you can find one. I have heard of a lot of people doing RWD swaps, I have never, ever, EVER, seen or heard of one even coming CLOSE to happening. Way to much work, you will never see your money back out of it. Ever. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmatic Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 i was told auto is better do to perfect shift points everytime it alwasy stays constant but for drag racin i would choose manual over auto just cuz it gives u more controll over the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 generally, when you're dealing with like 8 - 9.5 second or less cars, you want one of those fancy $60000 automatic trannies..... otherwise manual is better also... easier to drive o.O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus18 Posted September 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 well I'm not really spending much money. the only expense that I see is the transmission rebuild. I have all the other parts. well I have to put out 300 or 400 to swap the engine but I'd have to do that even if I was staying FWD. I'm going to turbo the 3800 with the supercharger. marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 I dont think 4 second nitro cars have an auto...unless you call 1 gear an automatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrulz4u Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 I dont think 4 second nitro cars have an auto...unless you call 1 gear an automatic. Yeah I know...Nitro cars are Single-Speed automatics...in fact, that's an NHRA RULE...even if the drivers wanted to use something else, they couldn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey River Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 I dont think 4 second nitro cars have an auto...unless you call 1 gear an automatic. Yeah I know...Nitro cars are Single-Speed automatics...in fact, that's an NHRA RULE...even if the drivers wanted to use something else, they couldn't... I don't know about Nitro cars but the Top Fuel cars use clutch packs. Last one I read about had essentially 7 clutches in it. 4 engaged on takeoff, 2 at the 60' mark and the remaining clutch engaged at the 1/8 mile mark. Very sophisticated setup, very expensive I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrulz4u Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 don't know about Nitro cars but the Top Fuel cars use clutch packs Nitro cars ARE Top Fuel!! Nitro-Methane is the fuel used in Top Fuel:) Here's a good page that explains what happens in the 4.5 seconds of a Top Fuel race... http://www.popsci.com/popsci/auto/article/0,12543,357253,00.html It states that there's 5 clutch packs on there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbostewhite Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 WHY THE HELL DON'T YOU JUST FIND A STE 6000 WITH AWD, AND USE THAT? HELL OF A LOT EASIER AND IT MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93Luminanewb Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Whoa, calm down killer. I think you should put a manual in it, you're already converting it to RWD, so why not convert it to manual too. You'd have quite the custom car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbostewhite Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 Try this...picture your car all done...now, picture the villagers, all with torches and pitchforks and shovels, all winding their way up the hill to your door. (humming the 70's song Frankenstien) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 manual in a RWD is better anyway.... you can drift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox340 Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 WHY THE HELL DON'T YOU JUST FIND A STE 6000 WITH AWD, AND USE THAT? HELL OF A LOT EASIER AND IT MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK. You find one intact and I'll do such a project. I always wanted an AWD Beretta... - Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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