1QUICKHATCH Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 just wanted to know if any one is running a 3500 in their 1st gen W? I am thinking of dropping mine in next weekend. The 3.1 just isn't filling my power needs anymore after driving my 3500 Alero! Quote
RobertISaar Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 60degreev6 would have a few members that have done it... Quote
mra32 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 A member that goes by PCGUY112887 has i think an LX5 in his 96 Grand Prix. Is this the 3500 youre talking about, or is it another engine? Quote
Euro Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 I think he's talking about the 60* pushrod 3500. The one that's similar to the 3100 and 3400 Quote
Pontiac6KSTEAWD Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 I wanna see if a 3900 would work. But getting a cable driven throttle body would be hard. Damn drive by wire.. Quote
RobertISaar Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 I wanna see if a 3900 would work. But getting a cable driven throttle body would be hard. Damn drive by wire.. Â WOT-Tech.... Â and yes it will work.... the 3900 is in my plans for the MC... and maybe the GP eventually. Quote
jake91 Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 i belive BrianP has a 3400/3500 hybrid motor Quote
Night Fury Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 I wanna see if a 3900 would work. But getting a cable driven throttle body would be hard. Damn drive by wire.. Â Just set up the drive by wire! It'd be easier Quote
RobertISaar Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 WOT-Tech?  http://wot-tech.com/shop/all/3900-tb-adapter/prod_62.html  exact product... Quote
Pontiac6KSTEAWD Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 hmmm....  Man I really need to get my project going now... 3900+T25 hybrid T28+G6 6 speed  First a need a better job... And to sell my house, and get to my house in Denver. I miss drivng the TGP.. Quote
Pontiac6KSTEAWD Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 I might get it befor then. Still working with the wife to see if she will let me buy a 5 speed car. She cant drive them.. Quote
RobertISaar Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 hmmm....  Man I really need to get my project going now... 3900+T25 hybrid T28+G6 6 speed  First a need a better job... And to sell my house, and get to my house in Denver. I miss drivng the TGP..  t25/28 is too small.... see my sig? 3900 + 6 speed + T61... that would be a better choice. still on the smallish side, but it should give just enough time for the tires to catch before boost comes on... Quote
BXX Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 Yeah, slap a T25/28 on a 3900 and very bad things will happen.. Â And as soon as I have a good reason enough (i.e. my L82/LA1 Hybrid blows up) I will be picking up a LX9 and dropping it in.. Pretty straightforward really.. Quote
RobertISaar Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 Yeah, slap a T25/28 on a 3900 and very bad things will happen.. Â And as soon as I have a good reason enough (i.e. my L82/LA1 Hybrid blows up) I will be picking up a LX9 and dropping it in.. Pretty straightforward really.. Â LX9 is a 3500... but yes, very straightforward, just need the crank trigger. Quote
BXX Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 And from my understanding the timing cover from the 3100/3400 may be needed to be swapped over.. Â And I know what the hell the LX9 is Quote
RobertISaar Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 And from my understanding the timing cover from the 3100/3400 may be needed to be swapped over..  And I know what the hell the LX9 is  sorry, i'm obsessed with 3900s.... to me LZ9>LX9... but for a VERY simple swap, the LX9 provides some damn impressive gains. Quote
BXX Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 Have fun getting the LZ9 to run correct. Â It needs the proper PCM which means a working CANbus data stream communicating with everything.. So unless you can put everything electronically in a Gen 1, good luck. Quote
RobertISaar Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 Have fun getting the LZ9 to run correct the way it should without the proper PCM. Â no problem, theres even a turbo 3900 running in a fiero on 60V6... Quote
BXX Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 Have fun getting the LZ9 to run correct the way it should without the proper PCM. Â no problem, theres even a turbo 3900 running in a fiero on 60V6... Â Guarentee you that the VCT isnt working properly Quote
BXX Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 And either way, it will never get the power with an older PCM as a newer one.. Trust me, ive seen the PCM files on the newer ones.. Theres a damn good reason they run sooo smooth and have excellent power.. Quote
J Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 my buddy who is a ASE mechanic for the last 10 years got his to run jsut fine until he crashed it into another car when he reached for something. It can be done. Quote
RobertISaar Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 VVT and VIM can be controlled by a few different means... may not work EXACTLY as the original PCM would do them, but it can be done... Quote
1QUICKHATCH Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Posted September 21, 2009 well it dosen't look like it will get installed next weekend I pulled the heads to flow them a year ago now they need to be reinstalled but I don't really like to put heads back on an engine when they have not been worked over a little bit! might build a set of headers for the 3.1 and install a 60mm tb for now and see how that works. Quote
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