xtremerevolution Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 I can see weight savings being more than you would think. I dont see a tubular control arm being much more than 10lbs if that. To put it in perspective, we put a whole cage in a honda civic hatch. The cage was 1 5/8" 120 wall tubing which is pretty heavy duty and it only added 83 lbs to the weight of the car. I think some 1" .151 wall should be plenty strong and lighter than you would think. In regard to 1st gen w-bodies, I'll believe it when I see it. Quote
mrl390 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 Believe what? About the weight? Tubing isnt made of lead. Its not that heavy. If the OEM control arms really are 25lbs a piece then you will be saving alot of weight by going to tubular control arms. Quote
White93z34 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 TBH I doubt there would be any weight savings. I have a hard time believing that OEM control arms are 10lbs each let alone 25 Quote
mrl390 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 Never picked one up. Im just going by what was said above. Quote
White93z34 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 I had mine off not too long ago, and they are honestly pretty darn light Quote
xtremerevolution Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 Never picked one up. Im just going by what was said above. It was a rhetoric assumption for the sake of comparison. I mentioned I'll believe it when I see it in regard to the production of such tubular control arms. The project has been talked about and discussed endlessly, and nobody has absolutely anything. Quote
White93z34 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 I think at the point the dream for tubular control arms is just that... a dream. But lets get the discussion back on topic. I'd imagine the project should be fairly simplex. what are your thoughts on UD pulleys, Jay? Quote
GOT2B GM Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 We need to reverse engineer TGP vacuum clips, but I don't have one to make a design..... Quote
Twenty Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 How about a really fancy oil cap? Quote
RobertISaar Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 How about a really fancy oil cap? or a set of some really bad-ass dipsticks? Quote
slick Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 We need to reverse engineer TGP vacuum clips, but I don't have one to make a design..... TRUF!! Quote
Twenty Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 How about a really fancy oil cap? or a set of some really bad-ass dipsticks? Small dress-up goodies in general. Quote
Imp558 Posted September 20, 2009 Report Posted September 20, 2009 How about aluminum Coolant and Washer reservoirs to replace our goofy shaped factory ones. Have to trunk mount the battery to mount them. Quote
J Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Posted September 20, 2009 I think at the point the dream for tubular control arms is just that... a dream. But lets get the discussion back on topic. I'd imagine the project should be fairly simplex. what are your thoughts on UD pulleys, Jay? UD pulleys would be a great idea, just need one for a model. Anyone have one in the garage they can send me for a few weeks? Quote
slick Posted September 20, 2009 Report Posted September 20, 2009 Jay, What all machines and tools do they have access to? And what is/will be there ability? I have a feeling that it will need to be something simple, so that the average high school moron could reproduce it. Putting the grooves in the pulley may be tougher than what they could do. I think something mentioned before, strut mounts, or strut plates, would be much easier. Much less machining (and thinking involved), and something that doesn't have to be exact. Quote
CSI_MuNkY Posted September 20, 2009 Report Posted September 20, 2009 ahem what about reverse engineering and producing some 3.4 FSTB? Quote
J Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Posted September 20, 2009 i honestly was thinking some FSTB's as well, they'd be cheap as hell to make! question though, does the 3.4 bar NEED the little indent in the middle? Quote
White93z34 Posted September 20, 2009 Report Posted September 20, 2009 Ii THINK its for the EGR to clear. I'll check mine today and report back. Quote
slick Posted September 20, 2009 Report Posted September 20, 2009 Yes Jay, the indent needs to be there. That, or make the bar just a bit taller. Quote
White93z34 Posted September 20, 2009 Report Posted September 20, 2009 It really can't be any taller, it comes extremely close to hitting the bottom side of the hood as is. Quote
mrl390 Posted September 20, 2009 Report Posted September 20, 2009 I know on the cutty one I had on my monte, the cutout sat right above the flange where the TB extention bolted to the UIM. Without it, the bar would have hit. The tubular one I made doesnt have a cutout, I just pushed it back closer to the firewall. It clears but just barely. Quote
Twenty Posted September 20, 2009 Report Posted September 20, 2009 How about aluminum Coolant and Washer reservoirs to replace our goofy shaped factory ones. Have to trunk mount the battery to mount them. I hate the factory washer fluid reservoir. Anything would be better than that. Quote
AL Posted September 20, 2009 Report Posted September 20, 2009 I also agree with the 3.4 bars... Quote
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