pontiacmaniac94 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 So, on the old 94 gp, I went to start her tonight, after driving the GTO all day, and she won't turn on. nothing, no lights, no dings, nothing. so i got jump it, and immediately, I hear the fuel pump click on, and another noise. Not really a hissing noise or anything, but a steady noise. Pulled the front spark plugs off, and they were bone dry, tried starting it, and it wouldn't even crank. Mind you, the key is NOT IN THE IGNITION. WHAT THE HELL? I tried pulling the relay to the fuel pump, and it still worked. I am pretty sure the motor is hydrolocked with gasoline, and is now shot. my question is, is this common? am I hi? what would have caused this. HELP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 i think the fuel pump will start turn-on as long as a good signal is coming from the oil pressure switch/sender.... kind of like a backup system in case the relay fails... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 CORRECT! Unplug it to see if it solves the issue. if so, you need a new oil pressure sensor. Worst case is that the battery is so discharged the car will not start, and/or the pump could be damaged and be inoperable. (but then, you say the pump did work) hook the battery to a charger and try it again once charged, or take it to a nearby auto parts store like advance or autozone and they will charge and check it for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacmaniac94 Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 CORRECT! Unplug it to see if it solves the issue. if so, you need a new oil pressure sensor. Worst case is that the battery is so discharged the car will not start, and/or the pump could be damaged and be inoperable. (but then, you say the pump did work) hook the battery to a charger and try it again once charged, or take it to a nearby auto parts store like advance or autozone and they will charge and check it for free. where is this located at? approximately? and I am thinkin that the motor is full of gas, it smelled badly of it, and wouldn't start. THANKS A MILLION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 front of the engine block, right above the starter... unless it is an LQ1, which is closed to the oil filter.. However, since you do smell gas... you should see if there is an existing leak under the plenum You could also pull the rear plugs and see if they are dry... however, they would be if the engine has not turned over... if an injector has a trickle down leak, you could have a cylinder that is flooded, meaning fix the issue and then do an oil change to remove the gas laced oil. just don't turn your engine into a blow torch by cranking the engine without disabling the spark system. been there... done that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacmaniac94 Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 thanks K! I am going to check on that tomorrow, I was just frustrated, and it was late, and I am tired, so thank you. I couldn't for the life of me figure out what was wrong. You rock my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 idea: if you have something you can probe with... you could stick it into each cylinder to see if the cylinder is wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacmaniac94 Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 idea: if you have something you can probe with... you could stick it into each cylinder to see if the cylinder is wet. yah, I already removed the front side, and they were not wet, I really wasn't feeling it last night to check the backs. I will have an update later on tonight when i get off work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomZoomFan Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 It's mad at you for driving the GTO. Duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 idea: if you have something you can probe with... you could stick it into each cylinder to see if the cylinder is wet. yah, I already removed the front side, and they were not wet, I really wasn't feeling it last night to check the backs. I will have an update later on tonight when i get off work. they might not be if the engine did not crank. the gas would be puddled at the bottom of the cylinder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacmaniac94 Posted September 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 It's mad at you for driving the GTO. Duh. Yah, one of my friends at work told me that.....makes sense......She always was the jealous type.... idea: if you have something you can probe with... you could stick it into each cylinder to see if the cylinder is wet. yah, I already removed the front side, and they were not wet, I really wasn't feeling it last night to check the backs. I will have an update later on tonight when i get off work. they might not be if the engine did not crank. the gas would be puddled at the bottom of the cylinder... YAY! she lives! the sensor was bad, so replaced that, also did an oil change (just in case) and she runs just fine, no knocking or anything! You rock crazy K. Spot on! oh, and now my trunk release works, so somehow connected? (LOL) you saved my life, and the life of the old girl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 woot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 only on a W could a oil sender fix a trunk popper, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Just an FYI, regardless if the fuel pump was stuck on or not, the cylinders wouldn't be flooded if the injectors weren't actually pulsing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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