tgpguy21 Posted September 9, 2003 Report Posted September 9, 2003 does anyone know if someone make ground effect kits for a 94 gran prix?? Also how hard would it be to swap out my 3.1 for a 3.4??? Any help would be much appreciated. Quote
slick Posted September 10, 2003 Report Posted September 10, 2003 Ground effects-Yeah right. The b4u body package isn't good enough. You will have to fiberglass anything you want for this. 3.1-3.4 swap-Should mount right in there. You will need the wiring, computer, and engine of course. Quote
topless94style Posted September 10, 2003 Report Posted September 10, 2003 If you want ground effects that bad check out i think its razzi.com. They had them for my 1989 Grand Am, never bought them though i aint no ricer. Quote
91GranSport Posted September 10, 2003 Report Posted September 10, 2003 I think Razzi's ground effects are ultra-rice. I just don't like their styling, it all looks either too plain or overdone. \ said: If you want ground effects that bad check out i think its razzi.com. They had them for my 1989 Grand Am, never bought them though i aint no ricer. Quote
91GranSport Posted September 10, 2003 Report Posted September 10, 2003 Also, the B4U package, is that the '93-'96 style GTP package? If so, I think those are sweet. I'd take that over anything Razzi has. Quote
tgpguy21 Posted September 10, 2003 Author Report Posted September 10, 2003 yeah that razzi style is ugly. i think ill stick with the b4u package. But as for the 3.4 it should just fit right in, ill just need to get the wiring and everything???? Quote
fleetwoodguy79 Posted September 10, 2003 Report Posted September 10, 2003 Well, everyone says "its just the wiring thats all you need". There are a few more things to consider that I found out myself when doing my swap. Make sure you have access to a 3.4 donor car. There are things such as heater pipes and such that you will need to swap over. Motor mounts are different too. And make sure you get the same year tranny that you did with that motor. They vary through years, caused me lots of problems. let me know if you have any questions. Quote
topless94style Posted September 11, 2003 Report Posted September 11, 2003 I checked out razzi cuz they show your car with the kit on there so i wanted to see what the GA looked like with it on. Looked stupid as hell cuz it was absolutly no change at all. I hate rice. Quote
dkorinko Posted September 11, 2003 Report Posted September 11, 2003 I have never even seen the Razzi stuff on a grand am or grand prix, i saw it on the site and i think thats why i have never seen it in real life, it looks terrible... Quote
patgizz Posted September 11, 2003 Report Posted September 11, 2003 donor car is the only way to go. Quote
L67wanaB Posted September 11, 2003 Report Posted September 11, 2003 I'm not up on the b4u body package. Call me goofy. I'd have to agree that the Razzi kits for GPs are just dog ass ugly. I rather like the Lumina kit I have though. I'm not certain of this, but going from a 3.1 to 3.4 dohc is a bit more involved than say going from a 3.1 to and L67. I say this because there is almost nothing you have to do to the mounts doing an L67 swap for a 3.1L. Performing the swap with a 3.4 requires an engine cradle swap... I believe. Purely assuming here, but I would say the same holds true with this swap. Quote
soccrplayrgtp Posted September 12, 2003 Report Posted September 12, 2003 its not tough! Just timely. Have plenty of time! Right Fleetwood? lol Quote
fleetwoodguy79 Posted September 12, 2003 Report Posted September 12, 2003 Nope its not tough. The L67 swap is sooo much more involved believe me. In addition to the engine wiring, you have to completely rewire your interior. Sure, it may bolt up ok, but thats NOTHING compared to the things you will run into in rewiring the car for an L67. Go with the 3.4... or if you need a 3100 i have a complete motor trans wiring harness and computer for sale dirt cheap :-). Quote
fleetwoodguy79 Posted September 12, 2003 Report Posted September 12, 2003 Nope its not tough. The L67 swap is sooo much more involved believe me. In addition to the engine wiring, you have to completely rewire your interior. Sure, it may bolt up ok, but thats NOTHING compared to the things you will run into in rewiring the car for an L67. Go with the 3.4... or if you need a 3100 i have a complete motor trans wiring harness and computer for sale dirt cheap :-). Quote
L67wanaB Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 I wasn't suggesting the L67 swap. As per a complete interior re-wire, it's not necessary. You only need the L67 PCM and engine harness. There are a few folks at l67swap.com that will make the harness for you, for a price. There are even wiring diagrams. This is all off topic though. Interior re-wiring unnecessary. I believe the engine cradle has to be swapped to accept the 3.4 DOHC. Quote
soccrplayrgtp Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 they only had one craddle from 88-96. its only mount swapping.. I did one a few months ago as well. Quote
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