Psych0matt Posted June 2, 2009 Report Posted June 2, 2009 Can anyone tell me for sure what the drop is with these? I thought it was 1.8", but I need to double check. (and yes, I know the sticky shows that, but again, I need to double check) Quote
Garrett Powered Posted June 2, 2009 Report Posted June 2, 2009 It was but that is for the 95-up monte carlo which I guess stock has a shorter spring than a TGP. because its more like a 3" drop on my car. when I pulled out the stock springs they were long as hell. I called intrax already and they are looking for a similar spring thats a little bit taller. If anyone has any info though that would be nice. I only want the car to be dropped 2" tops in the front. Quote
Dark Ride Posted June 2, 2009 Report Posted June 2, 2009 Then would a 95+ Monte Carlo stock spring lower our 1st gen cars? Quote
J Posted June 3, 2009 Report Posted June 3, 2009 i think they dropped the front of my car only about 2" Quote
Garrett Powered Posted June 3, 2009 Report Posted June 3, 2009 2" would be perfect for me. for some reason the thought of just using those never crossed my mind until you said that. tomorrow I will try to locate some. I was just going to try and cut the stock ones but that would be guesswork and I dont know if it would make it bouncy or weaken the spring. Quote
Garrett Powered Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 what the hell??? I ordered some '95 MC springs from rock auto for $75 and they were sitting on my desk when I got to work today! I'm not complaining, just saying WOW that was fast. I took them home and put them on the ground next to the stock springs I already took out and they are shorter by about an inch and a half, but the new ones actually have about a half of a coil more of the actual wire length. the coils are just tighter. Quote
Venom Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 what the hell??? I ordered some '95 MC springs from rock auto for $75 and they were sitting on my desk when I got to work today! I'm not complaining, just saying WOW that was fast. I took them home and put them on the ground next to the stock springs I already took out and they are shorter by about an inch and a half, but the new ones actually have about a half of a coil more of the actual wire length. the coils are just tighter. Have you installed them yet? Did you get stock springs from Rockauto? If so, whats the pn#? Quote
Dark Ride Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 So the stock MC springs would lower our cars? Way easier than trying to find a set of intrax. Quote
Garrett Powered Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 I will update soon. I haven't installed them yet. but the ones I ordered were the raybestos ones that were at the top of the list when you do a search on there for 95 MC. I think there might have been some confusion because the sticky thread needs an update on the intrax. maybe a pic of GOT2B GM's car. I will also post a few pictures and the info on there when I get it all finished like others have done. I have a feeling its going to be just perfect for drivability and looks. If it turns out like SMOOTH's lumina, that is what I am looking for and will most likely do all my cars that way. Quote
GOT2B GM Posted June 8, 2009 Report Posted June 8, 2009 I'll buy your Intrax's off of you for my Z34. Quote
Garrett Powered Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 I got the parts all on for the hopefully 2"drop the other day and the most stupid thing happened right before we got to drive it. It was half my fault and half my friend's fault. I had a shitty 2 ton jack that was not getting up high enough so I had to put a block of wood under the subframe. I got an aluminum racing jack now, but its too late. my buddy who was helping somehow let it down super fast and shut it right after the block of wood shot out of there and all the weight of the car caved in the oil pan. so now the car sits there and will not move until the oil pan gets pulled. Right now it looks like stock ride height. those springs I bought from rock auto had a half of a coil too much to be installed correctly and I had to cut off a piece of the bottom coil with a cut-off wheel. but they are in. more updates and pics soon as I get it driving around and the suspension settles down. might be a few weeks though. Quote
Venom Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 That blows man, hopefully you can get it fixed ASAP and find out for sure if there is a drop. Quote
SrMichi Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 dam that really sucks hope you get it fixed soon Quote
Garrett Powered Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 I got the oil pan off my spare motor and was cleaning it up right now. looks like where it got caved in was right at the spot where the oil pickup screen was so it might have jarred the tube loose or bent it when it happened. -that parts car from years ago has been so damn useful for parts. I don't know what I would do without it. I would be totally screwed... also I have been debating whether to just pull the motor and tranny out and build something insane with all the parts I have been collecting. ls1 springed heads, turbo cam, gt2871r. but first I got to build a 2.5" downpipe and strip down this block, get the tranny I have sitting here rebuilt with a limited slip, build the motor. I guess that will all take too long and cost too much. probably will drag on for a few years so I might as well swap out the pan and drive it till something else happens. then I will have time to get eveything lined up first. Quote
GOT2B GM Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 So your gonna go with those springs over the Intrax's? Quote
Garrett Powered Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 I don't know what I want, right now it looks like stock ride height. but thats mainly because all the parts were installed and the car came off the jack stands and hasn't moved an inch from where it sits. If it ends up dropping a couple inches after I drive it a little then that will be fine and I will probably do a similar setup on the red tgp or the 5 speed. and get rid of the intrax springs. its going to have to settle in a little more than it is though or I am going to have to go with a 3" or 3 1/2" drop from birchmount and just use the intrax on the red tgp and my 17x9" wheels all on that car. In my opinion it will drop down at least an inch from where it is on the front and back after getting an alignment and if I can get the sub box and battery in the trunk should help too. give me about 30 days or so to get the kinks worked out and I will take some pics of the car and post them. Quote
kuntzie Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 monte springs arent going to lower you gp, i dont know how you got that idea, have you ever looked at the wheel gap a monte or lumina have from factory? Quote
xtremerevolution Posted June 17, 2009 Report Posted June 17, 2009 monte springs arent going to lower you gp, i dont know how you got that idea, have you ever looked at the wheel gap a monte or lumina have from factory? x2. You know what's great? The ST Springs I bought for the Regal (originally labeled for the Monte Carlo) were $80 when I bought them a few years ago. They're now $252. Quote
Garrett Powered Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 monte springs arent going to lower you gp, i dont know how you got that idea, have you ever looked at the wheel gap a monte or lumina have from factory? I got that idea because of 3 things. 1. SMOOTH said it dropped his car 2" 2. the MC springs I got are almost 2" shorter than the stock springs from my TGP (with no load on them) 3. Intrax phone support said after I read them the numbers from the red springs I got, that they are for a 1.6" drop on a 95 MC which gave my TGP a 3.5" drop. this means that by simple subtraction that stock MC springs ought to drop my car well over 1" at minimum in theory. I guess I could have cut off a coil from the stock springs a lot cheaper and easier than cutting the MC springs like I had to. also I have seen MCs driving around lately and the gap looked a little less wide than my TGP. I didn't go measure it, but other tire/wheel combos make a difference too. Quote
Garrett Powered Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 monte springs arent going to lower you gp, i dont know how you got that idea, have you ever looked at the wheel gap a monte or lumina have from factory? x2. You know what's great? The ST Springs I bought for the Regal (originally labeled for the Monte Carlo) were $80 when I bought them a few years ago. They're now $252. what are ST Springs? are they different than the ones I got for $75 from rock auto? Quote
xtremerevolution Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 monte springs arent going to lower you gp, i dont know how you got that idea, have you ever looked at the wheel gap a monte or lumina have from factory? x2. You know what's great? The ST Springs I bought for the Regal (originally labeled for the Monte Carlo) were $80 when I bought them a few years ago. They're now $252. what are ST Springs? are they different than the ones I got for $75 from rock auto? They're the springs I'm currently using on the Regal, made by Suspension Techniques. I bought them for $80 + shipping back about 2-3 years ago. There was a write-up on them on the old w-body.com website. They were labeled specifically for the 95-99 Monte Carlo and provide a 2" drop over the Monte Carlo springs. They're a linear rate spring, unlike the Intrax which are variable rate. Come to think of it, I do remember there being a post where someone mentioned that there was some asinine number like 27 spring codes for 1st gen w-bodies depending on model and trim that all had different ride heights, so it is perfectly possible that the Monte Carlo had a stock ride height lower than that of other w-bodies. Quote
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