Genopsyde Posted May 24, 2009 Report Posted May 24, 2009 well if they can cram the 4.0 into a fiero, you can get one in a w-body. they've put the 4.6 in the fiero also, but had to cut areas on the cradle and strut tower. no cutting was needed for the 4.0 Quote
RobertISaar Posted May 24, 2009 Report Posted May 24, 2009 head/intake differences? its possible... they might mount differently as well. oil pan could also be different but they are largely identical. Quote
Euro Posted May 25, 2009 Report Posted May 25, 2009 Don't get the northstar...waste of money IMO Quote
xtremerevolution Posted May 25, 2009 Report Posted May 25, 2009 the northstar really isn't that bad. I have one in my bonneville and its quite nice. even with 3.73 fdr, I get 25mpg average on a flat highway at 75mph. Quote
Lumineer Posted May 25, 2009 Report Posted May 25, 2009 Alright sorry I'm all over the place on the stuff on my car but I let the wife have the 96 cutlass for a daily driver so I'm working on the euro now any ideas how to make that one fast I'm not sure what I want to do with it at all so I'm open to anyones ideas its just sitting in the garage with no engine or trans untill I figure out what I'm going to do with it Whatever plans you had for the Cutlass can be carried over to the Euro since they're basically the same thing (2-door W-bodies....wait, is your Euro a coupe or sedan? Doesn't really matter though, just curious). Regarding which engine to go with, I think the majority of people will back the L67. It'll be much easier and cheaper, not to mention that your overall "quickness" will be pretty similar between the two. I've never driven an L67-powered car yet though, so I have no experience with one. I HAVE driven my dad's Cadillac with a Northstar many times, and it certainly is a smooooooth engine when driven nicely, and an ass-hauler when driven hard. Thing is, it's all top-end, so you don't feel the pull until it's revving high, which has hurt me in a few street races (off-the-line/tire spin is rather weak for 275 horsepower, but it's 4,000 RPM+ pull is very respectable). But compare to compare, a Northstar is a premium, high-tech engine which is certainly high-quality, but also much more expensive and complex in comparison to a smaller, cheaper, simpler-designed and similarly powerful V6, plus you'd have the satisfaction of telling your friends that your car is supercharged And if they pull out the BS flag, you drag 'em to you car and pop that hood and show 'em that Honda-eater. Quote
Genopsyde Posted May 25, 2009 Report Posted May 25, 2009 and not to mention the vast L67 aftermarket. Quote
95cutty96 Posted May 25, 2009 Author Report Posted May 25, 2009 Its a 2 door coupe I was thinking about the l67 but I'm not sure I'm in no rush its sitting in the garage with no engine or trans at the moment Quote
95cutty96 Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Posted May 26, 2009 Well that's what I was thinking but you never know I might do a 3400 with a 5 speed just to be different because I'm just a asshole like that :grin: Quote
RobertISaar Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 trust me, thats not very different except for the vehicle year. people do 3400/5Speed swaps on 60* all the time. not so much on here though... Quote
95cutty96 Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Posted May 26, 2009 Well.....is there anyone that makes a 5 speed for the L67? Quote
Euro Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 you can mate the 282 and 284 to the L67. There have been people that've done both Quote
Genopsyde Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 not specifically, but you can still put one in. you can even get a G6/solstice 6-speed in there. Quote
GOT2B GM Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 the F40 ^^ But a 284 is built to take more power Quote
Euro Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 The F40 too, yeah. I think only one person's done the 6 speed to a 3800, but it wasn't an L67. I don't think the 6 speed is rated to handle more than 250hp? I think... Quote
Genopsyde Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 I don't think the 6 speed is rated to handle more than 250hp? I think... I've read otherwise. There's even one out there in a fiero mated to a LS7... Quote
RobertISaar Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 HOLY FUCKSTICK! thats awesome. i'm guessing one of the fiero guys did it? 505HP and i think 485TQ.... thats goddamn ridiculous... i want it. Quote
Euro Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 I don't think the 6 speed is rated to handle more than 250hp? I think... I've read otherwise. There's even one out there in a fiero mated to a LS7... Damn...no clue how that's going to hold up. I've just heard from multiple people that they're not rated for big numbers Quote
RobertISaar Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 i believe they are rated for 250LB-FT with a G6, which is what 3400/3500 lbs? whats a fiero weigh? i'm thinking thats what does most of it... i've also heard that it has 3 mounts, and that leaving the "side" one will stop the case from blowing up. Quote
Genopsyde Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 fiero is around 2500-2800lbs. the build was done by V8Archie. If you're interested I can pm you a link to the build thread since I don't know how this place feels about links to other forums. here's the drivetrain as it sits now in the car... the car itself... Quote
Crazy K Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 fiero is around 2500-2800lbs. the build was done by V8Achie. If you're interested I can pm you a link to the build thread since I don't know how this place feels about links to other forums. I'd like to see it too. I think that as long as it is appropriate, that it should be posted here. Quote
RobertISaar Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 V8Archie should have known.... and i throw links for 60*v6 up here all the time...as long as its relevant, i don't see an issue. Quote
Genopsyde Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 here's the link then... http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000047.html thread is 60 pages long so grab a beverage and enjoy. there were a few different engines planned I think, but then finally the LS7 was decided on. This thread is good motivation, because IMO anything they do to these cars, you guys can do to your W's Quote
Euro Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 oh yeah that car! Ugly as sin, but a helluva powerplant Quote
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