kuntzie Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 ALright guys its offical, i have begun the swap, i will be posting a tonne of pics of the progress for your watching pleasure. im im doing this in my driveway for the time being and will pull the engine at a local gm dealership that has agreed to let me use their shop over a weekend anyways for starters, even when doing this yourself if you ever decide to do it, take alot of pictures, its will help refresh your memory on re assembly if required. Start of the swap, there is a few options, either you can pull the engine first or tackle the dash, or if you have help, you can have one on each. i decided to start on the interior. its pretty basic but time consuming, a 7mm, 10mm, extentions and 13mm are your best friends. im not going to get into details as the pics say enough for the interior, but for other stuff more details will be had to make things easier on yourself label all the connections like i am doing. im about an hour into the interior and here is my progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 dash is apart, the pedal get removed from the engine bay (brake booster gets removed, 4 bolt there.. going to remove the front seats now and carpet to get ready for the shifter cable / shifter install more pics: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 You're doing this in your apartment parking lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 You're doing this in your apartment parking lot? yes, Josh style! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman093 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Interesting. Bookmarked thread and will follow. Why a 5 speed over the F40? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Interesting. Bookmarked thread and will follow. Why a 5 speed over the F40? 5-speed = readily available ie i have one, its been proven to be strong, direct bolt in, no custom fabrication needed minus minor wiring and other small details really 6-speed = custom mounts, unproven realibility (although they may be amaizing), custom axles, custom everthing really, crappy flywheel, although they shift very nicely and its got an extra gear, its not worth the effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 more progress.. brake booster is out, pedal assembly is out, downpipe off, turbo is out ect... and i also cut myself so i thought id post a pic of that aswell haha battle wound.. good thing i was wearing gloves.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 no pain no gain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w-bodys_are_the_best Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Nice work, do you have to mod the firewall bracket at all to accept the manual plate on a 2nd gen? I know you'll have to punch/drill through the floor for the shift cables. I was going to 5 speed swap my 96 when I had it but never did. How much different is the swap on a 2nd gen than say the 96 cutlass? I know with the 96 I was told the hole for the cables was halfway punched out on one side, and had to be drilled on the other, and then of course a custom tune for the 5 speed, or you could wire up the NSS to trick it into thinking it was in D, but that wasn't the optimal way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 this clutch pedal is going to be a pain, thedistance between the firewall plate and the mounts are different for the 97+s im going to have to make some crazy adapterand im not even sure if that is going to work ill take pics in a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 matt (GOT2B GM) has not gotten invloved in the project, he currently making a hybrid with the 2pedal assemblies as the older style will not work whats so ever. hopefully he post some pics of his progress/ craftsmanship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Yeah I have NOW gotten involved, going to custom mount the Gen 1 clutch pedal onto the Gen 2 pedal bracket. Going to mod the Gen 2 brake pedal to suit. I'll post pics as I progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Started fabbing the clutch pedal bracket today, also had to do some trimming on the Gen 2 pedal bracket to accomodate the clutch pedal. Just have to take the clutch pedal bracket to my parents, weld it up, paint, then I'll post pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 they got the clutch done finally today and shipped it out... heres my invoice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Ok heres my custom clutch pedal bracket on a 2nd gen pedal support. Cut the 2nd gen brake pedal to suit. Bolts up using existing holes. Had to trim some of the sheet metal "cage" back for clearance. 1st gen on left , 2nd gen on right, note the clutch and brake pivot points. Had to duplicate that with the bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 nice work matt! its all comming together now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeb80 Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 cool thrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Hopefully they ship your clutch far better then they shipped mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockTherapy Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 can't wait to see some finished pics and vids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted April 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 clutch is here! pedals are in!!..... packaging was great on the clutch BTW... the clutch is definitly a work of art!... pedals are too though matt haha thanks! pics!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 they packed your clutch the exact same why they did mine, mine musta gotten dropped and it broke the TO bearing in the process, fortunately spec eventually got me another one. thats a fine looking clutch, looks very different then my stage 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w-bodys_are_the_best Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 I couldn't remember, are you using a 284 or 282? Looks like a 284 type clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 that would be a 284 clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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