thedeef Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 i saw an add in GM high tech performance magazine for a performance torque converter for the camaro v8. anybody seen anything like that for w-bodies at all? they were claiming 50-60 hp at the wheels. sound like BS on the figures but might be nice to have anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 i saw a web site that had 3000 and 3500 stall converters for the 4t60 trannys they where $550 i will have to dig that web site up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4spdz34 Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 i have a 2800 stall in my 4t60-e and it cost me under 100$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOHC_WBody Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 i saw a web site that had 3000 and 3500 stall converters for the 4t60 trannys they where $550 i will have to dig that web site up again Wasn't it "ProTorque"? http://www.protorque.com/prodln/pl.htm I seem to remember back in the day, someone on the 3.4 Club on Yahoo mentioned them, and a higher stall converter they'd made for the 4T60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 um naw some one was talkin about the site here i look real fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeef Posted August 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 so do you guys think it's a worthy investment? also i'm not sure if i have a 4t60 or what. any help on that? -90 lumina 3.1 - auto (4spd+OD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 yeah you have a 4T60 also know as 440T4 anyone? 93 newer got 4T60E's? but for the converter i would beef up the tranny (rebuild ect.) if i where to get a higher stall converter i would also get a tranny cooler also if you dont have a stock one (not sure if you do or not) but it is you to money wise and ect. it can get pricey let us know what you do and hoe it turns out good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdelorie Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 [confusion] what is this fancy thing? and what does it do? [/confusion] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power-Glide Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 Those hp gains are far from bs.... A good stall converter whether it is mild or wild will dramatically increase torque multiplication Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeef Posted September 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 yeah you have a 4T60 also know as 440T4 anyone? 93 newer got 4T60E's? but for the converter i would beef up the tranny (rebuild ect.) if i where to get a higher stall converter i would also get a tranny cooler also if you dont have a stock one (not sure if you do or not) but it is you to money wise and ect. it can get pricey let us know what you do and hoe it turns out good luck about that tranny cooler- how much do those cost? also, for anyone who can shed some light on this... my tranny is 4spd + OD. is this out of the ordinary or not? it seemed odd to me for a 1990 lumina to have a 5 spd auto trans, because i've never seen that before. what do you guys think? -deef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thabulldog Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 as far as I know we have 3 speed transmissions with a 4th OD gear, at least whenever i top out the car i only count 4 shifts, maybe im wrong who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Yes all these trannies are 3spd plus OD. The 5 gears you are feeling can be explained like this: 1st 2nd 3rd Torque Converter Lockup (not another gear) 4th Hope that helps Robby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topless94style Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 This isny my thread but can someone quick explain how torque convertors work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 check this thread out about one cooler might shed some light on coolers http://www.w-body.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6698 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey River Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 This isny my thread but can someone quick explain how torque convertors work? Check this site out. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/torque-converter.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegp Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Those hp gains are far from bs.... A good stall converter whether it is mild or wild will dramatically increase torque multiplication You are totally right. This is from one of my earlier posts: As for the new converter, I say that the one I got sucks, no matter what the guy at the shop says. I'm no transmission tech, but I thought that a bad converter would make the car feel sluggish of the line. Since I've had the new one put in, the car just doesn't have the same "snap" when you push down the pedal that it did with the original one. Before, it would peel tire from a stop at half pedal or more. Now, you have to just about floor it. Also before, on a slight incline, the car would stay in place while your foot went from the brake to the gas (in drive). Now, if you're not paying attention, it will drift back almost like a standard shift car. It scared me for a second the first time it did that. I noticed the change immediately when I drove the car home from the shop. I talked to the guy who did the work (also is part owner of the shop) and of course, he acted like he thought I was crazy. He road tested it and said that nothing was wrong with it. Other than that slight annoyance, it works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeef Posted September 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 so did you experience horsepower/torque gains or not? by the way, if i put it in Drive instead of Overdrive, there are definitely 4 shifts. i'll post more on this later. thanks deef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 so did you experience horsepower/torque gains or not? by the way, if i put it in Drive instead of Overdrive, there are definitely 4 shifts. i'll post more on this later. thanks deef Wrong!! The last "shift" is the Torque Converter locking up. Robby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeef Posted September 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 easy now killer... ok so what exactly is this mysterious locking of the torque converter to which you refer? by the way i meant in drive there are 3 shifts, meaning for gears. ( or two and the great locking of the converter) deef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey River Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 easy now killer... ok so what exactly is this mysterious locking of the torque converter to which you refer? by the way i meant in drive there are 3 shifts, meaning for gears. ( or two and the great locking of the converter) deef When a torque converter locks up, it reduces the loss incurred when it operates normally. Typically, the turbine side of the converter turns faster, as it is attached to the engine, than the pump side, which is attached to the tranny. When the converter locks up, both halves of the TC turn at the same speed. It is supposed to make an auto tranny more efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeef Posted September 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 thanks man deef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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