Breakdown Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1425438 I honestly hope this man's death was not invain. This is one of the worst and most sickening losses of life that I've ever heard of. Recall time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 What? It's terrible yes, but how exactly does not having electrical power impede you from pulling the lock open right there on the door sill? I'm serious, does pulling it up not unlock the door? I can't imagine that GM would make such a grievous, basic mistake in designing that. I'd also imagine though, that panic would take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 What? It's terrible yes, but how exactly does not having electrical power impede you from pulling the lock open right there on the door sill? I'm serious, does pulling it up not unlock the door? I can't imagine that GM would make such a grievous, basic mistake in designing that. I'd also imagine though, that panic would take over. you might recall that this is the same company that offered a braking system that would not work if it for some reason did not have electrical power... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakdown Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 What? It's terrible yes, but how exactly does not having electrical power impede you from pulling the lock open right there on the door sill? I'm serious, does pulling it up not unlock the door? I can't imagine that GM would make such a grievous, basic mistake in designing that. I'd also imagine though, that panic would take over. I'm not positive of that fact, would like to hear from Buck. Otherwise doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 well i do not know about the Gp but the impala, malibu, monte carlo, and others around that year had the inside lock at the rear of the doors unlike the older ones right at the handle. And GMs doors will not open when the handle is pulled with the door(s) locked. Why i do not know, i believe every ford and chrysler product uses that technique to where when you pull the handle it unlocks the door. What a terrible way to go, i do believe that situation is very possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I would think you would be able to manually open the door from the inside, but GM can't get a brake these days (especially if this is true). Gotta feel bad for this guy's family since he died so close to home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 PULL UP THE FUCKING PIN! Jeez... this sucks and all, but no power = unlock it yourself! I even verified it. Car running, gear in drive... doors automatically locked. I pulled the pin up to unlock it(manually) and it opened fine. Did it several times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Its in Sudbury... he probably huffed too much paint and couldn't remember how to unlock a door without the power switch... I'm not joking either.... Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltboy1 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Darwin FTW... I mean, ya it blows that this happened, but shit, just unlock the door manually.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Darwin FTW... I mean, ya it blows that this happened, but shit, just unlock the door manually.... Indeed! If you take the risk of driving a car, it's your responsibility to know your car and to be prepared! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeP2389 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 yea seriously.. manually unlock the fucking door holy shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 The button doesn't work!!!!! I dunno what to do!! Tragic yes, GM's fault no. Its hard to make something completely idiot proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 note to self.. fix door that won't manually unlock... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Maybe in his state of panic he just didnt think of it, some people get like that when under extreme duress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal_GS_1989 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I can see there being an inquest, however, if it is found not to be GM's fault (and by that, I mean that it was nothing defective from the factory) then the cause of the fire should be published. Who knows, maybe there was an aftermarket remote start that was incorrectly installed that started the fire. As for the locks...If GM's did unlock when the handle was pulled, then you can guarantee that there would be stories published about someones kids playing around in the back seat of a lumina,without seatbelts on, when all of a sudden they pulled the handle and fell out of the car and died. It would be GM's fault at that point for not having the types of locks they do right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomZoomFan Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Yeah...it's not that hard to manually push the little swivelly thing. (that's about as simple as I can put it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdvs Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Maybe in his state of panic he just didnt think of it, some people get like that when under extreme duress. My thoughts exactly. Panic does strange things to people. How often do you manually unlock the doors when you're so accustom to it being done for you automatically? Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Enough to be able to do it in that situation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdvs Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Enough to be able to do it in that situation! I still maintain, panic can cause brain lock. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomZoomFan Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Hmm...well I was used to driving a car without power locks for a year. So it's still nearly a reflex action for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry455 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 strange it was after a party, alcohol may have been a factor. alot of these " strange" deaths seem to be related to drugs or alcohol. now some ambulance chasing attorney will try and sue GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted2bass Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I can see there being an inquest, however, if it is found not to be GM's fault (and by that, I mean that it was nothing defective from the factory) then the cause of the fire should be published. Who knows, maybe there was an aftermarket remote start that was incorrectly installed that started the fire. As for the locks...If GM's did unlock when the handle was pulled, then you can guarantee that there would be stories published about someones kids playing around in the back seat of a lumina,without seatbelts on, when all of a sudden they pulled the handle and fell out of the car and died. It would be GM's fault at that point for not having the types of locks they do right now. How exactly would a remote starter cause a car to start fire....especially under the hood.... x1000 on manually unlocking the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme_style21 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 "She then drove over to where he'd been, to see if he was still at the Super Bowl party and he was not there. She drove to his house, expecting to see him there and he was not there, either. She returned to the fire scene and the firemen had departed. She put on her high beams and she could see Bob, slumped through the centre console (inside the car)." Am I reading this wrong? The fire dept put out the fire, then left the burnt car alone, then at which point she came back, simply turned on her high beams towards the burnt wreck and saw a dead body in the car? That makes absolutely no sense. Maybe they do things differently in Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webxfx Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 PULL UP THE FUCKING PIN! Jeez... this sucks and all, but no power = unlock it yourself! I even verified it. Car running, gear in drive... doors automatically locked. I pulled the pin up to unlock it(manually) and it opened fine. Did it several times. No shit... even brake the window if you have too.... maybe he didn't want to get out - maybe the family should look in to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 "She then drove over to where he'd been, to see if he was still at the Super Bowl party and he was not there. She drove to his house, expecting to see him there and he was not there, either. She returned to the fire scene and the firemen had departed. She put on her high beams and she could see Bob, slumped through the centre console (inside the car)." Am I reading this wrong? The fire dept put out the fire, then left the burnt car alone, then at which point she came back, simply turned on her high beams towards the burnt wreck and saw a dead body in the car? That makes absolutely no sense. Maybe they do things differently in Canada? In Canada you call 911 and all 3 fire, ambulance and police are required to show up. Story sounds a bit fishy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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