CSI_MuNkY Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 My first winter with the GP I stuck with the all seasons and the car was all over the fucking lace.... next year I got a set of Dayton Winterforce tires and the car was a dream in the worst of conditions... I now have the same tires on my winter beater Accent.... Best winter tires I have ever had... MCC, 205's would be why your all seasons are better, if you go to a narrower tire they cut through the snow much better. But how are they if you hit a patch of ice? Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Yes Matt, and they're fine on ice. I don't have ABS so I'm used to pumping the brake if I have to. It makes a difference in stopping. I'm a good driver though as well (not bragging, I just am, HA!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Well good pick on the tires Nichole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Thanks. They look good with white letters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 did you fill them in with a paint marker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 The white letter pens don't work worth a hoot. I've been using automotive touch up paint for about 5 years now. It's fantastic! I use a bright white Honda color I've given this tip to so many local people who've asked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 right on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88red4cyl Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 For here all seasons work fine for winter... The roads get salted to death anytime there is fear of precipitation, plus our winters aren't as bad as Canadian winters obviously... I figure they must not/can't take as good of care of the roads up there either, since most of the people on the snow tire bandwagon are from Canada (no offense to you guys)... Down here, if you even want snow tires you have to have them special ordered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrkrazzie Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Kumho Solus tires are terrible. no shit they are oe tires on newer shitbox kias and hyundais just to name a few I honestly dont know about kuhmos solus's being shit... A family member had them on his 01 impala and they are kick ass...handle awesome on everything. I drove on a road with 5 inches of snow on it and they handled almost as if on dry pavement. Mind you the ones on my lumina are the KH16 and he has the KR21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Brandon drives a RWD Monte on wide street radials all winter long. You just have to know what you're doing. Winter tires just make it easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88red4cyl Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 You just have to know what you're doing. Winter tires just make it easier. I couldn't agree more with you Nichole... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 For here all seasons work fine for winter... The roads get salted to death anytime there is fear of precipitation, plus our winters aren't as bad as Canadian winters obviously... I figure they must not/can't take as good of care of the roads up there either, since most of the people on the snow tire bandwagon are from Canada (no offense to you guys)... Down here, if you even want snow tires you have to have them special ordered... Hell in Montreal they made it law that you HAVE to have snow tires or else you get fined. The roads aren't great, but not horrible either. Enough pot holes right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 For here all seasons work fine for winter... The roads get salted to death anytime there is fear of precipitation, plus our winters aren't as bad as Canadian winters obviously... I figure they must not/can't take as good of care of the roads up there either, since most of the people on the snow tire bandwagon are from Canada (no offense to you guys)... Down here, if you even want snow tires you have to have them special ordered... Hell in Montreal they made it law that you HAVE to have snow tires or else you get fined. The roads aren't great, but not horrible either. Enough pot holes right now. Yeah and because Quebec did that it made getting tires here easier said than done... I got mine in October and it was getting hard to get them already.... Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrkrazzie Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Gotcha... Snow tires... to me... arent worth the money. For my area i would rather just get through it normall with all seasons then spend the more money to have them last for less miles. When they did teh alignment on my car he put the tool oon all four tires, but only adjusted stuff in the front... do you have to request for them to align the rear when you take it in. I know my cousin just did the rear struts, but i do not know if he ever got it aligned after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I think it depends on the shop you go to... The shop I go to you have to specify you want a 4 wheel alignment otherwise they only do the fronts (half the price though) Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrkrazzie Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Good to know. I still cant get over the fact that my ball joint broke and my axle snapped today.... Less then a week after i put new front struts in and got it aligned. what kind of shitty luck is that, I am still really just hoping that I didnt screw up anything else. I had to watch it get dragged onto the flatbed tow truck sitting on the rotor, that was the only way we could get it on. got it home and put it in the garage and i headed out of town for drumline. I am actually on the bus right now driving through a snow storm!!! fun. I mean is there anything else that could have gotten real screwed up when this broke or when we put it on the flatbed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwk39018 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I'v been driving in Wi winters for 5years on all season tires never had one issue.Oh yea,I also ice race on all season tires too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carkhz316 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Gotcha... Snow tires... to me... arent worth the money. For my area i would rather just get through it normall with all seasons then spend the more money to have them last for less miles. When they did the alignment on my car he put the tool oon all four tires, but only adjusted stuff in the front... do you have to request for them to align the rear when you take it in. I know my cousin just did the rear struts, but i do not know if he ever got it aligned after In order to do a aligment properly on a car/ front wheel drive vehicle, you have to do a 4 wheel alignment. The rear has to be aligned straight, otherwise the front has nothing to relate/ compare to in terms of alignment. Doing just a front wheel alignment is a joke, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Most shops will only do a front wheel alignment cause its less time consuming... It cost me almost $100 to get a 4 wheel alignment on my 99 GPSE after I wrecked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrkrazzie Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Well.... got a 4 wheel alignment... the backs are off by a little bit, basically the guy said the way there are is just going to make the handling better through turns... Says it is "Almost tuned like a race car"HAHAHAH... anyway tires arent wearing weird and it has been like that for at least 25,000 on those tires so i dont think alignement is the issue.. Then we check to see if the rear calipers were sticking... Jacked up the back stepped on the brake hard and let it go, back tires spun as free as can be. So maybe luminas just suck like that, idk... Really would prefer not to have to put weight in the trunk of my FWD car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_Boy Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 My Impala has been outstanding in the snow,slush,ect...I am running all-season tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBuckert Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 How does the grip between the front and back tires compare? I have Blizzak LM-25s on my Monte and never rotated them last winter, that plus a few dry pavement spins meant my front tires were showing secondary rubber when I went to put them back on for this winter. Put them on the back so that I can get enough traction with the perfectly fine tires that were on the back last winter. Well with the bald tires in back it means that the back end will slide out often enough. So if there's a difference between grip and the front has more grip then the rear will slide out without the back breaking loose, hence the reason most winter tires are sold in sets of four. As for those of you running all-seasons, I truly wish I could do that myself, but here in Wyoming you're more likely to be blown sideways off an icy road then you are to slide off a turn. Besides, running dedicated winter tires means I can easily swap between winter and summer wheels without getting tires re-mounted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumineer Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 My brother's '91 Maxima is HORRIBLE in slick conditions....hell, even dry roads. It struggles to get around on snowy roads, and can't go above 60 or 65 on a gravel road without feeling really slippery and loose (like a vagina) and wanting to slide of the road or veer around. Fuck, I remember going around a dry pavement curve rather briskly, and where most cars I've driven would normally take it with some front end plow and squealing, the Maxima just spun a dry 360. I was able to spin the tires for about 40 feet taking off once. Man......that car is a pain to drive sometimes....but fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal_GS_1989 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 The issue here is simply the fact that the tires in the rear have far less grip than those in the front. Nothing else. This is exaggerated due to the fact that the front end of the lumina is far heavier than the rear. A simple tire rotation would easily show this. If you want the car to handle good in the white stuff, then 4 winters are the only way go. Yes, some all seasons can do pretty good too, and you can get through with them, but, there still no comparison between the 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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