skalor Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 I have a complete 284 setup that I plan on using in one of my TGPs. I have everything needed for the swap(axles, cables, master/slave cylinders, mounts, etc.) except for the clutch. Now, I know that the 284 utilizes a pull type throw-out bearing instead of the a push type. I noticed that the flywheel on the 284 looks close to the flywheel used on the 282. I'm just wondering if there is any way to utilize a 282 clutch if I were to get the 282 master/slave cylinders??? A 284 clutch is an expensive clutch($500+) where-as a SPEC stage 3 282 clutch is only $299. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian89gp Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 If you have the 284 trans, you need the 284 clutch. You can use the 282 flywheel on it as well. As long as your TGP isn't pushing over 300hp you can probably use the stock clutch, don't remember the price though. Spec has stage 2 and 3 284 clutches for $600 ish (call them, they aren't listed on the web) Centerforce has a 284 clutch for $800 And Clutch masters has a clutch for around $800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skalor Posted August 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 That's good to know that SPEC has a clutch available for the 284. I've only ever checked their website and it wasn't listed as you've said. I'll have to email them for pricing. It's good to hear that it's the same flywheel, so I could use a SPEC lightweight 282 flywheel if I wanted...that's good to know. I couple of my friends have SPEC clutches. and they all recommend them. I've also read good things about them on the fiero.nl forum. Thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian89gp Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 Spec stages 1: 350tq $489 2: 400tq $559 3: 500tq $559 4: 520tq $559 5: 710tq $699 stage 3 and 4 are a 6 puc design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 If you have the 284 trans, you need the 284 clutch. You can use the 282 flywheel on it as well. so you need a 284 specific clutch kit on a 284 trans, and you can use the 282 flywheel? what about using 282 hydraulics on a 284? that might be a stupid question but i've never looked at a 284 setup up close for myself. i know one is push & one is pull, but the 282 hydraulics just seem much simpler. i'm just curious cuz i found a rolled Z34 with a 284 that might be replacing my blown 282. joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 A 284 clutch is an expensive clutch($500+) where-as a SPEC stage 3 282 clutch is only $299. holy shit; the Luk Rep Set clutch kit i just bought for my Turbo GTS was only $150. my brother iTurbo has never had a problem with these clutch kits in his turbo dodges - running 13psi in mid/high 14 second cars (he has 3 of 'em and they all have the same clutch and never any problems). joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 i was just looking at luk for one for him i have a clutch system diagnostic guide from school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian89gp Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 so you need a 284 specific clutch kit on a 284 trans, and you can use the 282 flywheel? what about using 282 hydraulics on a 284? that might be a stupid question but i've never looked at a 284 setup up close for myself. i know one is push & one is pull, but the 282 hydraulics just seem much simpler. i'm just curious cuz i found a rolled Z34 with a 284 that might be replacing my blown 282. joshua The flywheels are interchangeable, but the clutches are not. The master cylinders are the same but the slaves are not. 284: http://www.brian89gp.com/284.jpg 282: http://www.brian89gp.com/282.jpg The only way to even think about using a push style clutch on the 284 is to scrap the slave cylinder and use a hydraulic TOB like: http://www.brian89gp.com/tob.jpg But considering they cost upwards of $200 then the full setup costs the same as a performace 284 clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skalor Posted August 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 brian89gp, is it common for a 284 or 282 to have scraps on the the inside of the bellhousing where the pressure plate would hit. I noticed that both of your pictures have it, and my tranny has it as well. Does this indicate excessive wear on the input shaft bearings?? http://fp.enter.net/~nicolette/images/284scrap.jpg p.s. I used one of your pictures to illustrate my point. I hope you don't mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian89gp Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 I really don't know, but I have seen it on a few tranny's. That 284 pic, it was on an engine that the main thrust bearing went out and the crank could move back and forth 1/4 or 1/2" or so. As long as it isn't gouged into the internals I wouldn't even give it a second look, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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