CutLoose Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hi guys, i've found you almost can't give a CS vert away, so I'm considering a 5 speed swap. I found a 90 CS International Coupe with in Pull-A-Part today, but it's not a 3.4, it's a Quad. Is this a good donor still? What about the flywheel, will it be balanced right and/or fit? Is it the same trans and ratios or are they different? I'm sure I need the axles, but any other problems/fitment issues? The console was the same design as mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 The console is about the only thing that can be used from a Q4 car... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 the trans is almost completely unusable for anything but a q4. the axles *should* be the same the shift cables should work just fine shifter assembly firewall plate - provided it is vacuum brake and not PMIII will work honestly, most everything but the PCM and transmission itself are useful I am no Q4 expert so someone feel free to correct me here if I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderw31 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Dunno bout all the items you listed Chris, but you are correct about the tranny. The Q4 tranny has a different bellhousing bolt pattern than the 60*V6 uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutLoose Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 What car could I get the right transmission from? And how can you tell a getrag 282 from a 284? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderw31 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I think you could use a tranny from any V6 car and be OK, although there will likely be some brackets and external hardware that would need changing. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I dunno about on other models, but at least on a W, if the motor is anything other than the 3.4, then the tranny will be a 282. Not even sure the 284 was used on any models other than the W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyfloyd Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 a 282 will be behind a 3.1L or 2.8L in a w-body, 88-90, and a 284 will be in a 3.4L car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutLoose Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Do I have to have a 3.4 flywheel? Would a 282 hold a stock 3.4 TDC motor? Would the trans mounts from the Quad 4 car be good to grab too? I think the transmission stuff can just be disconnected and on a 93 not cause any probs, right? Do I have the unboltable firewall plate on my 93 Vert? I don't want to be welding on the car, but I can make brackets and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyfloyd Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 flywheel should be removable. THe 282 would probably work, but is not as strong as a 284 stock. On the quad 4 car, I'd probably grab the shift assembly, shift cables, firewall plate and pedals, clutch master cyl, and the driver's side trans mount. Axles might not be bad, but may be different. Mounts might be different too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutLoose Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Do I have this right, the 282 needs to be from a W-body, not from a J, L, or N? That will be a problem. But the flywheel, what I meant is can you use a 2.2 flywheel or 3.1 flywheel? I'm not that familiar with this 60 degree stuff, but I am tired of 4T60E's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 W only, J, L and N will not bolt in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutLoose Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Shit! Dammit I was really hoping this would be easier. Somebody loan me 4 grand and I'll just put in an LS4 Monte SS drivetrain instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyfloyd Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well, the j-body 3.1 will bolt up to the motors, since they used the 3.1L, but the mounts, gearing, and intermediate shaft are different and will be difficult to get things to work properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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