BCM Posted December 18, 2008 Report Posted December 18, 2008 Somebody I work with is having a problem with her 2000 GP SE. It starts and runs fine but when she puts it into reverse or drive, etc. it dies everytime,it has the 3100 engine w/ 122k miles edit: when i start it up it dies within a few seconds regardless of what gear its in. Quote
Brian P Posted December 19, 2008 Report Posted December 19, 2008 every time, as in she can't get it to run in gear, ever?? Disconnect the MAF sensor and see if it gets better. That'd be the easy step anyway. Quote
BCM Posted December 19, 2008 Author Report Posted December 19, 2008 every time, as in she can't get it to run in gear, ever?? Disconnect the MAF sensor and see if it gets better. That'd be the easy step anyway. Yes. Quote
5speedz34 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Posted December 19, 2008 Have you been in the car or driven it since it started doing this? I would consider a tune-up and/or seafoam in order also. Quote
BCM Posted December 19, 2008 Author Report Posted December 19, 2008 Have you been in the car or driven it since it started doing this? I would consider a tune-up and/or seafoam in order also. No, haven't even seen it(since it's been doing this). She just told me about it at work today. Quote
Brian P Posted December 19, 2008 Report Posted December 19, 2008 there's no way this is a tuneup or seafoam issue. This is something likely related to fuel management, when load is placed on the engine via the tranny, it isn't getting the proper fuel adjustment. There's a chance it's also air-related as in a bad IAC or severely gummed up throttle body (I guess if it's the latter, then it would be corrected by seafoam). Quote
BCM Posted December 20, 2008 Author Report Posted December 20, 2008 Would changing the fuel filter help at all? Somebody else at work suggested it.. Quote
oldscsc Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 Would changing the fuel filter help at all? Somebody else at work suggested it.. Couldn't hurt, considering it's probably overdue anyways. Quote
BCM Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Posted December 22, 2008 ok. im in the car now. i started it up and it died within a couple seconds. and it wont start back up unless i turn the key off and try it again. the security light is flashing so i think the passlock or whateverits called is messed up.. This was all in Park Quote
BCM Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Posted December 22, 2008 the car has almost 122k miles on it btw. Quote
Brian P Posted December 22, 2008 Report Posted December 22, 2008 oh ok so this is passkey related then. Does she have another key? If not, then see the dealer. I had one made for my sister's '02 GP for $40 and that included programming the car for it. Quote
BCM Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Posted December 22, 2008 oh ok so this is passkey related then. Does she have another key? If not, then see the dealer. I had one made for my sister's '02 GP for $40 and that included programming the car for it. No there's only 1 key. Won't they need the car there when they go to get a new key and program it? Or is there a way to bypass the passlock temporarily? My friends Alero did the same thing except it wouldn't start at all. Waited 10 minutes with the key to the on position till the security light stopped flashing and it started (I tried it with the GP and it still flashes). However his security light comes on from time to time when he's driving. This is the only car she and her mom have and they have to walk to work everyday because of this so I'm trying to fix it ASAP. Thanks for all the help so far. Quote
Brian P Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 with the passkey 3 system you may try the following: http://www.justanswer.com/questions/1119k-re-program-pass-key-2002 Hopefully her key is the culprit and not the theft deterrent module. Quote
BCM Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Posted December 23, 2008 I didn't think it would have Passkey III. I know the key doesn't have a transponder in it(or does it?), it's just bare metal. Like this: Quote
Brian P Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 UHHHHH.... that's her key? There's your answer!! The key with the visible chip is Passkey II. She has Passkey III which has the small transmitter inside the rubber part of the key. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/00-03-OEM-Pontiac-Grand-Prix-Transponder-Key-Blank_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem320300814140QQitemZ320300814140QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Tell her if she has the rubber half, maybe slipping it back on will allow it to work again. If not, it's back to square one. Quote
BCM Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Posted December 23, 2008 ok that would make sense because she just pulled the black part off about a week ago. and thats about the time it quit working. Quote
jake91 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 why did she pull the rubber piece off Quote
BCM Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Posted December 23, 2008 I think half of it came off and she eventually just pulled the other half off. Quote
BCM Posted December 25, 2008 Author Report Posted December 25, 2008 So she got a new key made/programmed and it works now. Quote
rockfangd Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 lol sometimes you cant tell something is missing if it is not there Quote
5speedz34 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 Haha nice to see that it was that simple. How much did it cost for her to get a new key and get it programmed? Quote
Euro Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Holy shit $150?????????? To get a new key made and programmed for my car from a Pontiac dealer was $60! And I thought mine was too much Quote
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