xtremerevolution Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Simply put, it doesn't work. Not sure why. It used to chirp when I locked or unlocked the car, now nothing. I've tried disabling and re-enabling the chirp, but that didn't do any good either. When the alarm is set off, nothing happens either. I know this is probably more of a question for Slick, but I'd greatly appreciate any help to troubleshoot this or figure out where the problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webxfx Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 if its not going off when you set the alarm off - then for sure its the siren its self. Check the ground wire off the siren, also to confirm its a siren problem take the red wire from it and jump it over to power and see if it goes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 if its not going off when you set the alarm off - then for sure its the siren its self. Check the ground wire off the siren, also to confirm its a siren problem take the red wire from it and jump it over to power and see if it goes off. Good idea. I'll try that tonight and let you guys know what happens. Is it at all possible that anything other than the siren itself may be busted? If it is the siren, where do I get a replacement? Can you get sirens of varying degrees of loudness? I want something loud enough to wake the dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Mine had a chafed wire where it went inside the cabin...I have 2 sirens on my CS, both modified to be loud enough I heard it inside my bedroom (250 feet) away with an industrial fan on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Mine had a chafed wire where it went inside the cabin...I have 2 sirens on my CS, both modified to be loud enough I heard it inside my bedroom (250 feet) away with an industrial fan on... How do you modify a siren to be loud enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 There's usually a wire or a resistor you have to snip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 There's usually a wire or a resistor you have to snip. Where, on the siren itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Yes. This oughta be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Viper and Delco usually use the same alarms on their systems since they're both DEI. I'll see if i still have the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Yes, on the sirens, there are two wires- One is to cut so it is quiet, one is to cut so it is loud. Ground is right to the chassis, power is red at the siren, and a brown wire output from the brain. To check, run power to the red wire on the siren. If it go's off, either the red to brown wire has came undone, the ground is bad, or you hit the magical button combo on your keypad to turn off all sirens (which Rob did the same thing to his). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted November 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Yes, on the sirens, there are two wires- One is to cut so it is quiet, one is to cut so it is loud. Ground is right to the chassis, power is red at the siren, and a brown wire output from the brain. To check, run power to the red wire on the siren. If it go's off, either the red to brown wire has came undone, the ground is bad, or you hit the magical button combo on your keypad to turn off all sirens (which Rob did the same thing to his). Dammit, if I hit that magical keyboard combo, how do I hit it again to turn the siren on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted November 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Screw it. I tried every combination of wires to get that siren to turn on, and couldn't get anything. There are 4 wires on that siren. the first pair is a red and striped brown wire the second pair is a black wire that is cut, and a striped black wire that comes out of the siren and goes back into the siren not sure what's going on. I'll have to check the power on the two wires going to the siren to see if those have any power going through them when the siren should be on, but I'm too damn cold to go back outside now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 The black wire that is cut, and the black/white wire that is cut is the soft and loud alarm tones, leave those alone. Red - 12V Brown or Black- Ground Gimme a few days to come up with that button combo again, it's pretty wierd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted November 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 The black wire that is cut, and the black/white wire that is cut is the soft and loud alarm tones, leave those alone. Red - 12V Brown or Black- Ground Gimme a few days to come up with that button combo again, it's pretty wierd. Well I tried hooking up the red and the brown wire to the battery and got nothing. Should I assume that my siren is gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I'd say your assumption is a good assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted November 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I'd say your assumption is a good assumption. Where can I find a cost-effective replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I've never really looked around, but I've gotten several free one's from the junkyard. Otherwise, ebay or amazon maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-UNGO-REPLACEMENT-CAR-SECURITY-ALARM-SIREN-HORN_W0QQitemZ220302318423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item220302318423&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DEI-515r-128db-Car-Alarm-Siren-Car-12-Volts-2-Wire_W0QQitemZ400003607082QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item400003607082&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DEI-SECURITY-SYSTEM-ALARM-SIREN-518N-NEW-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ260303854942QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Electronics_Installation?_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted November 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-UNGO-REPLACEMENT-CAR-SECURITY-ALARM-SIREN-HORN_W0QQitemZ220302318423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item220302318423&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DEI-515r-128db-Car-Alarm-Siren-Car-12-Volts-2-Wire_W0QQitemZ400003607082QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item400003607082&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DEI-SECURITY-SYSTEM-ALARM-SIREN-518N-NEW-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ260303854942QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Electronics_Installation?_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116 Damn they're cheap. Is it possible to wire more than one in parallel? Better yet, is it worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yes, you can wire as many in as you want. Just remember, at some point, the current draw will be enough that you will want to add a relay to up the amperage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted November 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yes, you can wire as many in as you want. Just remember, at some point, the current draw will be enough that you will want to add a relay to up the amperage. Say I get 2 sirens. Will I need a relay for that much power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Nah, you'd be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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