hmdznrcld Posted November 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Bigbuls do you have a pic of that tool?? I would love to get my hands on one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 The 3.4 was not made to rock forward. Pull the weather stripping off the cowl there, and extensions + u-joint should be able to do them no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 have you tried starting it with starting fluid???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmdznrcld Posted November 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Have not tried starter fluid yet, Guess that should be the next thing. I'll keep ya posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 might need to get a scan tool on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 If the starter fluid doesn't get it started for you, I would verify that the cam timing is correct(especially if the engine wasn't still packaged/crated when you got it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyman87 Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 i had the exact same problem with my crate motor. turned out to be 2 things 1. the ignition was not hookedup all the way and the 2nd was the timeing was 50% backwards from the factory. I would have all the cams retimed since they had a factory defect when the built the 3.4L DOHC. /? can you please specify if your motor is cranking over slow or fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmdznrcld Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Sorry took so long to respond! But guess what I have the same issue!!! The cams were at least 90 out on the front side I have not pulled the back cover yet to check. It's hard to believe a crate motor would not have proper timing, luck of the draw I guess. The last crate 3.4 I bought was timed fine. My buddy is gonna borrow the tools and time the beast for me, I should be good to go then. The only other hassle is getting to that darn wire on back of the alternator! What a pain that is. I will post up some video once she is fired up, maybe this weekend I hope. Forgot to say it turns over pretty fast, but the starter is making a racket!! Must need to be shimmed Thanks Guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssspeedstreet Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I'm in the same fix as you seem to be. No start on a 1995 crate motor wired as a 1991-1993. I had the timing belt off to remove one of the cam carriers. I guess I need to take a look to see if I retimed it correctly. I've also been dealing with cranking issues. I just found out today my 18 month old Optima Red Top is bad. Maybe that's been the problem all along. One thing that's bugging me is the tach. Does yours show RPM while cranking? The manual says it should or you have an ignition problem. Mine did, to my relief. Then I did the crank sensor wire reverse. The tach didn't show RPM anymore (it didn't start, either). I switched the crank sensor back and I still don't have tach movement. Maybe it's co-incidental and they have nothing to do with each other. Anyway, I'm following this thread closely hoping for a magic bullet. If I find one I'll let you know. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmdznrcld Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Hey Neil, My tach shows nothing during cranking either. My buddy is coming over tomorrow evening to time this thing. It should be golden after that, if not I'm gonna spit bullets. We looked at the motor that came out of the car and sure enough the flats were aligned on both sides. I knew we had an issue then. I also found on the front cams that you could push the timing belt down ant least 3/16" of an inch between the sprockets, it scared the crap outta me when I saw that but when you crank the motor around it tightens up. I was praying that my lambo's 3.4 belt is not that loose. I'll keep ya posted. hmdznrcld aka RUNDLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssspeedstreet Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Hey, Carthan! I didn't pick up on your AKA. Is this TK that's coming over? Man, I wish I had him on site! You know how after you finally get a motor installed and you're routing lines and such, you think "The first time I have to drop this motor I'm going to fix that"? Well I've reached that point on mine before it's even started the first time. Mostly it's the coil pack on mine. My exhaust is stock Fiero routed, plus the A/C hoses, plus all the wiring is in Thermo-Tec sleeves . . . I can't even see the coils from underneath. I need to unsleeve everything to re-route wiring to mount the coils up top so I can deal with them. Can the coil/ignition pack be bench tested somehow? Take care, ~Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 My tach doesnt move on cranking either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Neil, yes the coils and the ICM can be benchtested at most parts stores. However, be sure to have them do it 5-6 times in a row, as problems seem to only arise as temperature increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssspeedstreet Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 My tach doesn't move on cranking either. And is yours running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Yes... I drove it around yesterday... Although it might not show up on the tach because the car cranks really slow, but fires right away... I will check the black car one of these days and see if it shows while cranking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssspeedstreet Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Yes... I drove it around yesterday... Although it might not show up on the tach because the car cranks really slow, but fires right away... I will check the black car one of these days and see if it shows while cranking. Interesting. I'm going by this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patgizz Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 so before assuming it was timing - did you attempt starting fluid to rule out fuel? like before you went out and potentially wasted money on a new pump and stuff? when you don't go about things methodically and cross one system off the list at a time is when you start throwing money at problems that are not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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