Brake Line Question

[PontiacMark]

does anyone know if GM makes a brake line kit (all the lines) for a 95 gp? a friend of mine with a z24 cavi says the have em available for that, so i figured they must have it for the w-bodies too. i tried looking, but had no luck. does anyone know of one? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

[Cutlass350]

I doubt it. For the cavi, the brake lines may not be directly from GM. Or,maybe GM has a lot in stock, and for whatever reason, they haven't yet sold that old stock (for a car older than ~7 years) to a second-tier parts supplier.

 

You can now get iso-to-iso unions. Yea, it's about *()*()*) time! And, if you want, you can also get coated brake lines. You can also get iso-to-iso size adapters for the MC. So..., in theory, you can re-do a whole brake system without any flaring. Just get the correct sizes of brake lines, and enough unions.

 

If you can get by without any brake lines on the car for ?~3 weeks?, you can send the existing brake lines out to be reproduced. http://www.classictube.com/ will reproduce your brake lines (at a cost :-).

 

Going the pre-made brake lines with unions, it's ~$100->200 to replace all of the hard lines. Depends on how many short sections you need to snake by areas.

[Hairdo12]

Just get a 50ft coil of 3/16 brake tube from somewhere. Then get the loaner tube bender and double flare tool from autozone. I was able to pull both rear brake lines from my lumina and lay them down on the ground and match the bends in about an hour and a half, its easier with a helper to match the bends. If done correctly, for both rear lines, you should only need one union for each and no unions for the fronts. My unions are double flared and the connections to the hoses are iso.

[Cutlass350]

Just get a 50ft coil of 3/16 brake tube from somewhere. Then get the loaner tube bender and double flare tool from autozone. I was able to pull both rear brake lines from my lumina and lay them down on the ground and match the bends in about an hour and a half, its easier with a helper to match the bends. If done correctly, for both rear lines, you should only need one union for each and no unions for the fronts. My unions are double flared and the connections to the hoses are iso.

That's exactly what I did for my Stang when I upgraded the brakes!

 

But, now, I have to replace the brake lines on my '92 Olds, and when I found out that I could now get ISO unions, I decided it was faster and easier for me to go the 100% iso brake line and iso union route.

 

Also, I found that some people have problems doing good double flares. IMHO, most of the double flaring kits out there have too much flex and suck and make lousy flares. IMHO, spend the money and get a K&D kit. Also, you'll want to ream the inner wall to 45 degrees. So, you almost have a (blunt) point at the end of the line. That way, when the double flare is done, there's a smoother transition between the end of line and where it's now folded over.

 

BTW: There are a number of good brake tube bending tools. I like the one by Lesie (sp?) and is kinda like a press. I can't find a link right now.

 

OMG:

Bending Stainless Steel Tubing - Bend Your Own Brake Lines

Refreshing Your Car's Steel Tubing Is Easier Than You Think.

http://www.carcraft.com/howto/116_0701_stainless_steel_tubing/index.html

 

Just how stupid are these magazines? Don't they even ask anyone that has a clue about brake lines?

You can NOT flare Stainless Steel Tubing with a typical flaring tool. That's UNSAFE AND FOOLISH!

 

For SS brake lines,

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=16272&itemType=PRODUCT

But, you'll need an ~$400 flaring tool!

 

 

Also, BTW:

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=2469&itemType=PRODUCT

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=2478&itemType=PRODUCT

Check ebay for adapter fittings. Or, do a web search.

 

[rockfangd]

i hate flaring brake lines, especially when i slip. I always just buy a whole roll and go to town