Venom Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Then 2g is the way to go. Adjustable from the factory?? yes...you can adjust camber and toe. Im not sure if all of them are adjustable from the factory though. Some of the GPs I looked at in the yard were not the adjustable ones. IIRC they only came on the "sportier" models (GTPs ect....) but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 here are some better than stock 2g lateral arms. http://www.wbodystore.com/grandprix/oversized-adjustable-lateral-arms-p-144.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 BMR also sells adjustable lateral links. Both the front and rear can adjust. I think just the rear can adjust on stock 2g's. They're pricey but they're probably the best quality out there. 1.25" (stock 2g's are 3/4") and have greaseable poly bushings. I wouldn't recommend the GMPP trailing arms either. My car has the GMPP tubular arms when I bought it. Not sure when they were installed but the rubber bushings are rotting out. I'd get something with poly One thing I just learned about coilover's being noisy is that the position of the spring can make it noisy. I put my car up on the lift at work awhile back when changing the oil and when I put it back down and drove it out one of the coilovers was making a ton noise. It didn't look out of place or anything that I could see, but I put it back up and turned it around 180 degrees. Noise was gone. It must have moved a little when it decompressed, but you couldn't tell at all visually. The noise issue is why I'm really leaning towards the Intrax/KYB route. I don't have access to a lift to make minor adjustments like this, and any noise would drive me insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 I suppose I should speak up, lol. I haven't been around lately due to the GTP being off the road now... There was next to no noise when the held kits were new. Now however I do get quite a bit of noise now. All I think it would need is to add isolators between the mounts and the spring (top and bottom) The only noise I am getting out of the ass end (as of the time I took the car off the road) was the Addco bar rubbing somewhere and my wide ass 255 tires rubbing. The 255's are going to need the fender rolled, then they should be good. I don't know what they would need up front as I have yet to try putting them on the front. The Held Lateral links and trailing arms include Poly bushings and the provisions for grease fittings. Mine didn't include grease fittings, I just got them at carquest for $10 Lee does have the tooling to make the adjustable lateral links and his price is (or at least was when I got mine) WAY better than the BMR price. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 So, I'm pretty sure I'm going to shoot for Eibach's or Intrax's with the KYB's in the front. Rear, haven't quite decided yet. I don't want the squeaky coilovers, so I guess my only choice is a leafspring. Both companies still making them, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeb80 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Slick, you can make your OWN coilovers you don't need the alum mount FFP had....you can use a regular one...from KYB or whatever....ask Josh and Paul. They each built their own. Mine are FFP's and I don't have a problem. And I love the ride. .........just some info..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Yeah, I realize that. Probably more work than I want to put into it though. I will probably just break down and get the Eibach's, and make something out of the rear springs, since they won't be usable. They will give me the drop I desire, the better performance over the Intrax, and the progressive-rate for a smoother ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Ok, here is my parts list, for Rock Auto. I can't find the right wheel bearing/hub assembly, or atleast one that is correct. Is the Timken 513044 correct for my car, ABS equipped, or is another one correct? Any changes I should make, or anything I'm missing? Ball Joint x2 SPICER Part # 5051148 {Professional Grade}Front Suspension; Lower $33.79 each Front Strut x2 KYB Part # 366004 {GR-2; Suspension Strut Assembly}FWD; with Standard SuspensionFWD; with Heavy Duty Suspension $35.99 each Rear Strut x2 KYB Part # 236003 {GR-2; Suspension Strut Assembly}FWD; with Standard SuspensionFWD; with Heavy Duty Suspension $45.79 each Rear Mount and boot x2 KYB Part # SM5277 {Suspension Strut Mounting Kit}Sedan; Rear $33.79 each Front Strut Bearing x2 SPICER Part # 5151009 {Professional Grade}Front $26.89 each Front Strut Mount x2 KYB Part # SM5030 {Suspension Strut Mount}FWD; with Heavy Duty Suspension; Front * Non-stock item--shipping delayed up to 2 business days $27.89 each Front Bearing Plate MONROE Part # 902994 {STRUT-MATE BEARING PLATE}FRONT LEFT; FWD; Lower Spring Seat & Bearing $22.99 each MONROE Part # 902995 {STRUT-MATE BEARING PLATE}FRONT RIGHT; FWD; Lower Spring Seat & Bearing $22.99 each Outer Tie Rod End x2 SPICER Part # 4011457 {Professional Grade}Outer $26.79 each. Energy Suspension front sway bar bushings (They come with the new mounts, correct?) Front inner: 9.5173 Front outer: 9.5159 or The moog bushings that Brian mentioned in the 34mm upgrade thread. Waiting to hear a response from Brian on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt_igirt Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 why oes everyone use rock auto r they cheaper then other places Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 why oes everyone use rock auto r they cheaper then other places Generally, yes. And, there is always a 5% discount code floating around as well. Also, spell check helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I got a quote today from a powder coating place, about 20 minutes from here. $150 + prep, he will powder coat: -Left and right front control arms -Left and right spring mounts/knuckle's -Front sway bar -Rear sway bar and brackets Obviously I'm going to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 WOW great deal! Looks like a great list Chris. I need a spring isolator for the bottom of my spring, Michael at FFP put my C/O's together without anything between the spring and the bottom mount, thats my squeak! Anyone have a PN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I spoke with Chris... I am supplying him with a 3.4 front bar, and bringing him FUX coded large brake front struts. recommended investigating the blue moog bushings instead of the ES ones. recommended that the bearing plate between the spring and knuckle not be replaced unless actually bad. (they do go bad, but not that often, and he will have two sets to choose from if needed) Suggested a rear swaybar upgrade, I think we concurred that won't happen until after the rest of the suspension is done. chris... RSTB? FSTB? this car still Powermastermalware equipped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Already have FSTB, Aweb mounts are on the way here for the RSTB. I will be using Eibach springs in the front, so if anyone wants the FUX springs, shoot me a price. While I have it all apart, I'm just going to replace it all. I don't want to take it all apart several times to replace something that cheap, if I can avoid it. Powermaster works and performs flawlessly. All new stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 ummm... I'll take the FUX springs... LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 To keep on topic, shoot me a PM with how much you would want to pay for them, or trade parts for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34mightymachine Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I was just curious do they make eibach springs for a Lumina Z34 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I was just curious do they make eibach springs for a Lumina Z34 ? same springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 You guys are slacking! If I'm going to take the control arms out, obviously I'm going to need new bushings. SPICER Part # 5701058 {Professional Grade} Front Suspension; Lower Front $7.87 IIRC, I will need 4 of these, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeb80 Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Energy Suspension front sway bar bushings (They come with the new mounts, correct?) Front inner: 9.5173 Front outer: 9.5159 yes, these come w/ new Greasable mounts....GREAT quality too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 You guys are slacking! If I'm going to take the control arms out, obviously I'm going to need new bushings. SPICER Part # 5701058 {Professional Grade} Front Suspension; Lower Front $7.87 IIRC, I will need 4 of these, correct? Damn, you shoulda just had me pick you up control arms along with the knuckles. The arms from the same Lumi were clean as hell and the buchings showed no signs of cracking. You do know you need a press to get those bushings in and out, right??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 And bump on the bushings. Is it 2 per side (1 per mounting point), or more per side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Damn, you shoulda just had me pick you up control arms along with the knuckles. The arms from the same Lumi were clean as hell and the buchings showed no signs of cracking. Well... how much will they want for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 i will check while i am on lunch im actually at work right now taking a huge poo lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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