GJD5 Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 Does the new revision sway bar from Addco hit anything or make any noise if you use the monte carlo hangers and bushings? I read a million posts about all the problems but it's hard to tell if people are working with the first or second revision bar. I just want to be able to put it on with factory monte carlo hangers and bushings and have everything be good...not really looking for a modify this or that project...know what I mean. Quote
GOT2B GM Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 Rev 1 bar fits fine with longer spacers in the inner hangers. Quote
GJD5 Posted August 29, 2008 Author Report Posted August 29, 2008 The revision 2 is the bar I would get... Quote
Crazy K Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 pity no one remember the rear swaybar upgrade done and documented by REDGTP. I wish i could stand and say that I know it was perfect... but... I only took corners at 40mph tonight... (in a 25)..... but the rear of my car sticks like glue none the less. Quote
gpchris Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 whats the difference between the bars? from what im getting the old one rubs and the new one doesnt? Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 Revision 1 rubs on lowered cars. Revision 2 was bend a tad differently so this would not happen and give you more clearance between everything. Quote
gpchris Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 Revision 1 rubs on lowered cars. Revision 2 was bend a tad differently so this would not happen and give you more clearance between everything. So why would anyone want the first one? Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 If your car isnt lowered its fine. Besides, even with the second bar, you need to work with it to get it just right, like you do with the first bar. When I ordered my bar I thought Id get the second bar too, but the first revision bar is what came in the box... Quote
Crazy K Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 haven't people notched the body where the bar hits with no ill effect? Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 you have to cut a shitload of inner fender out of the way.. but you should have to. Quote
Crazy K Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 I have a monte bar on my 94 CS, i used the the monte brackets... but i didn't measure to see a difference in hanger length. guess i should? Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 i dont think there is a difference in length. its the same bar and the same hanger used for all the W's since its basically the same car... even though one has a monoleaf and other has springs Quote
GJD5 Posted August 30, 2008 Author Report Posted August 30, 2008 the monte carlo bar fits w-bodys's with the monoleaf too??? I thought it didn't?? Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 unless im thinking of something else Quote
AWeb80 Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 yep...I notched my inner fender...I got the first bar to work fine...but the second bar works great Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 where did you get the second bar? Quote
AWeb80 Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 a couple years back when DOHCV6 set up the re-design w/ Trey at addco I called Trey personally and had a revised bar sent to me free of charge. I still have Trey's number, but think that he might not be there anymore Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 ohh bummer... Ill try and make mine work then. Quote
Crazy K Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 the monte carlo bar fits w-bodys's with the monoleaf too??? I thought it didn't?? YES IT DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
GJD5 Posted August 31, 2008 Author Report Posted August 31, 2008 the monte carlo bar fits w-bodys's with the monoleaf too??? I thought it didn't?? YES IT DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is the one you put on your CS a 22mm bar? Did it go on without any problems? I may go to that pull-a-part Monday and get one for my GP! Quote
Crazy K Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 the monte carlo bar fits w-bodys's with the monoleaf too??? I thought it didn't?? YES IT DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is the one you put on your CS a 22mm bar? Did it go on without any problems? I may go to that pull-a-part Monday and get one for my GP! Hy, On my GTP I put a 1996 Lumina MonteCarlo rear swaybar.. with 3100 engine. For the diameter.. good question ... I think, I taked the diameter when I install it to check teh difference between each... the 94' GTP sway bar (14mm) the 96' lumina sway bar (~19-20mm) But I will change my rear suspention of my GTP to put on my CSC soon, I will check the right diameter I take the swaybar from a 3100 engine body ! I don't know if anwsered your question ... Yann I put on the lighter duty rear bar. (5/8) REDGTP put on the heavier bar (3/4" = 19-20mm) I am going to get and install a heavier one soon and try it.. I feel that the strut's bushing bracket needs to be modified with welding, to form a cage to prevent the rubber bushing from pushing out, as the swaybar puts more outward pressure on the rubber that the factory GEN 1 swaybars. When i installed it, I used a ratchet strap to pull the bar ends towards each other, and stuck and tightened down the rubber bushings. then i released it and it all slipped into place. The U bracket is the same on all the gen 1 and 1.5... the idea of welding would be to put a bridge on one side of the U to prevent the rubber from popping under pressure. Also, on my car I used the monte connectors (between the bar and the body mount) which are supposed to be longer. i think you will need the clearance. Also watch for line rubbing!!!! Some model year 94 cars may have a recall on interference rear brake lines(mine does). I can SEE why. See Yann's thread http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?topic=62531.msg749554#msg749554 p.s. Yann. YOU ROCK! Quote
GJD5 Posted September 1, 2008 Author Report Posted September 1, 2008 Interesting... My sisters 95 Monte Z34 has a 22mm bar...it's factory. I thought those were the brackets and bushings everyone was using with the Addco bar. I measured it in several different places today...it is definetly 22mm(7/8") Quote
Crazy K Posted September 1, 2008 Report Posted September 1, 2008 Interesting... My sisters 95 Monte Z34 has a 22mm bar...it's factory. I thought those were the brackets and bushings everyone was using with the Addco bar. I measured it in several different places today...it is definetly 22mm(7/8") so the Z34 bar is thicker than the one Yann used. next time I see a clean 95+ Z34 in a yard.... Would 9C1/9C3 luminas have the same bar? *puts measuring tape in tool box* Quote
GJD5 Posted September 1, 2008 Author Report Posted September 1, 2008 I was at the pull a part today and none of the Luminas had a 22mm. Even a 99 LTZ didn't have it...it had a 20mm. The 96 Monte Z34 had a 20mm also. Maybe they just did the 22mm in 95 on the Monte Z34...kinda like the stupid rear drums they put on it for only 95? Quote
Crazy K Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 either that... or there was no 22mm bar... Quote
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